Cocked & Locked
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Nice stag on that American Derringer Corp.!
who has a derringer ? show n tell
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whitecoyote
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Erich
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Ron, this site may be of interest:
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: Results
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: .22 Results
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: Results
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: .22 Results
Alpo
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I would guess that that's not entirely correct.
Judging from the fireball I get when shooting my 2 1/2" 19, the 357 (with that barrel length) also burns most of its powder outside the barrel. Still, I believe it is more effective than a 38 out of a 2 1/2" barrel.
Not as effective, to be sure, as it would be from a 6 or 8 inch barrel, but more effective than a 38.
Logic says the 22 magnum would be the same. Since a Long Rifle is designed to burn all its powder in about 18 inches of barrel, when using a 2" derringer, it also, "burns most of its powder outside the barrel".
Judging from the fireball I get when shooting my 2 1/2" 19, the 357 (with that barrel length) also burns most of its powder outside the barrel. Still, I believe it is more effective than a 38 out of a 2 1/2" barrel.
Not as effective, to be sure, as it would be from a 6 or 8 inch barrel, but more effective than a 38.
Logic says the 22 magnum would be the same. Since a Long Rifle is designed to burn all its powder in about 18 inches of barrel, when using a 2" derringer, it also, "burns most of its powder outside the barrel".
zzzippper
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I've always wanted one as a novelty but I can't justify the price tag. And the NAA's, while cute, seem to have very little utility.
Got a Hy Hunter derringer in .357 back around 1963 and took it to college.
Shot it off and on with .38s and it wasn't too bad. One day I got brave and shot that little cannon with .357s. MUCH pain. In my dotage I sometimes wonder what in hell kept that thing together with .357 pressures, and how I lived to tell the story.
After about a year the soft lockwork went out of time. Some years later I put it into a shadow box and it stayed there for about 40 years. Almost accidentally I found out that Numrich had repair parts and got it up and running. I test fired two rounds of .38 wadcutters (I had learned my lesson!) and quit while I was ahead. It got promoted to the gun safe as a result as it's (barely) worth stealing now.
Also had one of those $17.95 pot metal, lined barrel .22LRs before that, which actually worked pretty well. Traded it for a .22 scope.
Somewhere in the 1980s I found an original Remington .41 double derringer that had a cracked hinge. I had a friend who was a very good gunsmith, and against his advice told him to try welding up the cracked hinge. When he tried the hinge just kind of disappeared, and we were left with gun parts. Oh, well.
A few years ago I picked up one of the High Standards in .22LR; wanted one back in the day and never got around to it. Pulled of the grips thinking to do a complete disassembly, but on reflection decided that it looked a lot like a clock inside, wasn't really broke, and buttoned it up again. It still works ok, which it probably wouldn't if I had pursued the issue.
As someone posted above, these days they're essentially a toy. If things get that bad, I'll just reach for a club.
Shot it off and on with .38s and it wasn't too bad. One day I got brave and shot that little cannon with .357s. MUCH pain. In my dotage I sometimes wonder what in hell kept that thing together with .357 pressures, and how I lived to tell the story.
After about a year the soft lockwork went out of time. Some years later I put it into a shadow box and it stayed there for about 40 years. Almost accidentally I found out that Numrich had repair parts and got it up and running. I test fired two rounds of .38 wadcutters (I had learned my lesson!) and quit while I was ahead. It got promoted to the gun safe as a result as it's (barely) worth stealing now.
Also had one of those $17.95 pot metal, lined barrel .22LRs before that, which actually worked pretty well. Traded it for a .22 scope.
Somewhere in the 1980s I found an original Remington .41 double derringer that had a cracked hinge. I had a friend who was a very good gunsmith, and against his advice told him to try welding up the cracked hinge. When he tried the hinge just kind of disappeared, and we were left with gun parts. Oh, well.
A few years ago I picked up one of the High Standards in .22LR; wanted one back in the day and never got around to it. Pulled of the grips thinking to do a complete disassembly, but on reflection decided that it looked a lot like a clock inside, wasn't really broke, and buttoned it up again. It still works ok, which it probably wouldn't if I had pursued the issue.
As someone posted above, these days they're essentially a toy. If things get that bad, I'll just reach for a club.
Two High Standard .22 mag, American Derringer .38 Special, BTJ .38 Special, and Double Tap .45 ACP with interchangeable 9MM barrel.
Don't leave home without one. I try to carry a derringer in the same caliber as my main carry gun.
Mark
Carrying a Derringer in the same calibre as you main gun is an EXCELLENT idea.
How do you like the Double Tap in 45 ACP. Is it "worthy"??
I have used 2 derringers.
First is the High Standard 22 Mag. I really like it. It is small, thin, compact, easy and quick to shoot and believe it or not very accurate.
Once upon a time the State I worked in decided that officers had to qualify with ALL the handguns they might carry. It has been a long time but the course was either 10 or 15 rounds.
If I remember correctly it was 10 rounds for Derringers and 15 rounds for small revolvers and semiautos. You shot at 5 and 15 yards. There was a time limit and reloading was involved. I think the "Plan" was to cause people to fail with these little guns, and thus not be able to carry them...
When I went out to qualify with High Standard 22 Mag, the entire range staff came out to watch. The target was the standard Police B 27 target.
Well I had practiced, and could hit a coke can at 15 yards with both barrels.
So I fired the course and shot mostly X's and a few 10's, ie. a perfect score...
They are pretty good little guns...
First is the High Standard 22 Mag. I really like it. It is small, thin, compact, easy and quick to shoot and believe it or not very accurate.
Once upon a time the State I worked in decided that officers had to qualify with ALL the handguns they might carry. It has been a long time but the course was either 10 or 15 rounds.
If I remember correctly it was 10 rounds for Derringers and 15 rounds for small revolvers and semiautos. You shot at 5 and 15 yards. There was a time limit and reloading was involved. I think the "Plan" was to cause people to fail with these little guns, and thus not be able to carry them...
When I went out to qualify with High Standard 22 Mag, the entire range staff came out to watch. The target was the standard Police B 27 target.
Well I had practiced, and could hit a coke can at 15 yards with both barrels.
So I fired the course and shot mostly X's and a few 10's, ie. a perfect score...
They are pretty good little guns...
My second Derringer is one of the Freedom Arms 22 Mini revolvers. These guns have a four shot cylinder, I have a 22LR and a 22 Mag cylinder.
I carry this gun 100% of the time, here at the house with CCI 22 Shotshells, for snakes, and when I leave the house I load it up with 22 Mag HP ammo.
When deer and pig hunting I usually carrry it with two CCI Mag Shotshells, and two 22 Mag Solids.
I have killed several snakes with it, including copperheads, diamond back water snakes, up to 44" and a 54" rattlesnake.
I have killed a couple of squirrels, a couple of rabbits, both for the pot, and used it for finishers, ie head shots on a few pigs.
Again with practice it is scary accurate.
The advantage with a Derringer is that you can carry them on your person, or "about" your person in places that you cannot carry any other type of handgun.
Personally, I would never carry one as a number one, or not even a number two, but they make a great number 3, and number 4....
If you do get one, or more of them, practice with them. You just might be suprised at how well they shoot...
I carry this gun 100% of the time, here at the house with CCI 22 Shotshells, for snakes, and when I leave the house I load it up with 22 Mag HP ammo.
When deer and pig hunting I usually carrry it with two CCI Mag Shotshells, and two 22 Mag Solids.
I have killed several snakes with it, including copperheads, diamond back water snakes, up to 44" and a 54" rattlesnake.
I have killed a couple of squirrels, a couple of rabbits, both for the pot, and used it for finishers, ie head shots on a few pigs.
Again with practice it is scary accurate.
The advantage with a Derringer is that you can carry them on your person, or "about" your person in places that you cannot carry any other type of handgun.
Personally, I would never carry one as a number one, or not even a number two, but they make a great number 3, and number 4....
If you do get one, or more of them, practice with them. You just might be suprised at how well they shoot...
