WHY BUY A GLOCK 19 WHEN YOU CAN GET A MUCH BETTER GUN WALTHER PPQ?

[marathonrunner]

Guys, I own the M&P Shield and M&P 9C. I love them both but if I am going to buy more guns, I was going to buy more Glock 19's or Walther PPQ's. Yes I know more aftermarket stuff for Glock and magazines are cheaper, but the Glock 19 is like $550 and the PPQ is $630.

What I was thinking, I don't want to buy a Glock 19 because I have to invest in a trigger job to make it shoot almost as well as a PPQ. The PPQ right out of the box comes with a match barrel and a trigger that is by far, the best box stock trigger you can get. The PPQ is also the exact same size as Glock 19 so I don't see any advantage with sticking with Glock 19's. I feel the quality of my PPQ is every bit as tough as the Glocks.

your thoughts?

 

[Rpg]

Marathonrunner:

You're missing the ultimate handgun : the Colt 1911.

Get a real Colt 1911: preferably a series '70.

Put 1000 rounds down range after you've done a training course.

Then get a Colt Commander (the Commander is the light weight, the Combat Commander has a steel frame )

Finally, once you've mastered the 1911, get a j frame (my favorite is the old M38.

Learn to shoot it.

You'll be selling many of your Tupperware guns.

Just my opinion, of course.

 

[ColbyBruce]

My first Glock 19, a gen. 3 gun that I added Trijicon NS and a few spare mags to, then gave to our son.

My two gen. 2 Glock 19 pistols.

My third gen. 2 Glock 19, sold it as I left Glock, Inc. after having it serviced and night sights installed.

I have owned twelve Glock handguns. Sold two, gave two to my son, one currently resides in a LE evidence room, and I have seven between two homes. Glocks are accurate, affordable, available, reliable, replaceable, and have great customer service. I live close to Smyrna, GA whereas not everyone does. For me, a used Glock is a tool that I can have rebuilt for free, night sights added for under $60.00, and not lose a dime on if I decide to part with it. This is why I own Glocks.

I own S&W's too, and look for more constantly.

 

[Welder1]

Certainly won't argue that the PPQ isn't a very formidable well made hand gun. when was the last time you heard of someone putting multiple thousands of flawless rounds thru one? There are plenty of smoother, better looking, more expensive handguns out there but few measure up to Glock for longevity and operational consistency. My money would be spent no question on a Glock if given the choice for a gun being worked hard.

 

[mc5aw]

No one dislikes Glocks more than myself ... no one. If I got a free Glock, I'd give it away or throw it away. That said, there are 1,000s who are loyal to the brand based on its reliability. If you found something better than the 19 for your needs and skill set, then go with it. If the Glock 19 works best for you, then stay with it.

 

[Fishinfool]

The PPQ may be all that, and more. When it has the time afield and service record of the Glock platform, then we will know....

I am not a huge fan of plastic pistols, but I own a few, because they do serve a purpose, and do it well. The Glock is a proven platform, and its funny how many new plastic wonders have been introduced over the years that tout they are just as good as the Glock. When you are the "standard" for a particular weapons platform, there is usually a reason for it.

Larry

 

[alwslate]

Guys, I own the M&P Shield and M&P 9C. I love them both but if I am going to buy more guns, I was going to buy more Glock 19's or Walther PPQ's. Yes I know more aftermarket stuff for Glock and magazines are cheaper, but the Glock 19 is like $550 and the PPQ is $630.

What I was thinking, I don't want to buy a Glock 19 because I have to invest in a trigger job to make it shoot almost as well as a PPQ. The PPQ right out of the box comes with a match barrel and a trigger that is by far, the best box stock trigger you can get. The PPQ is also the exact same size as Glock 19 so I don't see any advantage with sticking with Glock 19's. I feel the quality of my PPQ is every bit as tough as the Glocks.

your thoughts?

When the quality of a gun is based solely on how smooth the
trigger feels to a prospective buyer then just maybe your post
will start to have some validity.

 

[GatorFarmer]

I would trust a Glock to be kicked through the dirt and still work. I do not know that the Walther is as proven.

H&K probably make the smoothest and nicest of the polymer autos btw. FNH makes some nice guns too. The Canick TP9 meanwhile costs half what the Walther does and generally has acceptable trigger pull.

 

[Ματθιας]

Guys, I own the M&P Shield and M&P 9C. I love them both but if I am going to buy more guns, I was going to buy more Glock 19's or Walther PPQ's. Yes I know more aftermarket stuff for Glock and magazines are cheaper, but the Glock 19 is like $550 and the PPQ is $630.

What I was thinking, I don't want to buy a Glock 19 because I have to invest in a trigger job to make it shoot almost as well as a PPQ. The PPQ right out of the box comes with a match barrel and a trigger that is by far, the best box stock trigger you can get. The PPQ is also the exact same size as Glock 19 so I don't see any advantage with sticking with Glock 19's. I feel the quality of my PPQ is every bit as tough as the Glocks.

your thoughts?

I'm confused. Do you already own a G19 and/or a PPQ? If so, you've already made your choice.

BTW, it doesn't cost much to clean up a glock trigger yourself.

 

[Hillbilly77]

Guys, I own the M&P Shield and M&P 9C. I love them both but if I am going to buy more guns, I was going to buy more Glock 19's or Walther PPQ's. Yes I know more aftermarket stuff for Glock and magazines are cheaper, but the Glock 19 is like $550 and the PPQ is $630.

What I was thinking, I don't want to buy a Glock 19 because I have to invest in a trigger job to make it shoot almost as well as a PPQ. The PPQ right out of the box comes with a match barrel and a trigger that is by far, the best box stock trigger you can get. The PPQ is also the exact same size as Glock 19 so I don't see any advantage with sticking with Glock 19's. I feel the quality of my PPQ is every bit as tough as the Glocks.

your thoughts?

This looks like a copy-and-paste of your previous threads, with a little bit of editing.

The difference is that "M&P" has been replaced with "Glock", and "Glock" has been replaced with "Walther PPQ".

 

[Biggfoot44]

You're on a forum of SMITH & WESSON afficianados , looking for support of a Glock over a Walther ? My head spins.

Stand by over on the Ruger Forum to tout the relative track record of the latest Tarus over the Springfield XD.

 

[Hapworth]

You're on a forum of SMITH & WESSON afficianados , looking for support of a Glock over a Walther ? My head spins.

This is the Firearms & Knives - Other Brands subforum, no?

 

[unclebob]

My first Glock 19, a gen. 3 gun that I added Trijicon NS and a few spare mags to, then gave to our son.

My two gen. 2 Glock 19 pistols.

My third gen. 2 Glock 19, sold it as I left Glock, Inc. after having it serviced and night sights installed.

I have owned twelve Glock handguns. Sold two, gave two to my son, one currently resides in a LE evidence room, and I have seven between two homes. Glocks are accurate, affordable, available, reliable, replaceable, and have great customer service. I live close to Smyrna, GA whereas not everyone does. For me, a used Glock is a tool that I can have rebuilt for free, night sights added for under $60.00, and not lose a dime on if I decide to part with it. This is why I own Glocks.

I own S&W's too, and look for more constantly.

"evidence room", I'm sure there is a good story with that!!!!

 

[Arik]

I don't have brand loyalties. If it works, reliable, durable, relatively inexpensive and has a good aftermarket support I'll buy it. This being said I carry a G19 for that reason. The Walther PPQ is a fine gun by all accounts but.....it doesn't have the track record of the g19, mags are expansive. If I wanted to pay close to $40 a mag I might as well buy a HK vp9. It has almost no aftermarket parts that includes night sights. I believe one company recently started making those, so that's a plus. I don't see a problem with Glock triggers. Shoot it and they will smooth out. PPQ trigger is smoother but longer and more mushy. You FEELING that the quality of the PPQ is every bit as tough as a Glock is not the same as it actually f being every bit as tough. Some of the earlier ones had trouble chambering some quality HP ammo like Gold Dot and HXT. I don't like their changes from M1 to M2. The move from paddle release to button screwed over a lot of people who invested in the M1 version. Those mags don't interchange and are not being made anymore. I understand that Walther is kicking around the idea of bringing back the M1 but it hasn't happened yet.

I have no problem with the PPQ and will likely get one one day but I'll wait till mags are cheaper, and it has been kicked around more

Your next question should be ...why would I buy a PPQ when the HK vp9 is just as cheap and has a proven track record! [emoji6] [emoji6]

 

[ColbyBruce]

"evidence room", I'm sure there is a good story with that!!!!


Our home was burglarized on February 23, 2011 and a Glock 31 was stolen. The gun was recovered in August 2011 in a neighboring county during a home invasion. It has been held as evidence since. It is supposed to be fingerprinted and photographed and released from evidence back to me.

 

[eveled]

Marathonrunner:

You're missing the ultimate handgun : the Colt 1911.


Finally, once you've mastered the 1911, get a j frame (my favorite is the old M38.

Get the Glock if you want to fit in, with the other fan boys. If you get the Walther you better shoot circles around the Glock boys.

There is iron in RPG's words of wisdom. Nothing feels and shoots as good as a quality 1911, and you can't beat a j frame for pocket carry and backup.

I can't buy a Colt, but I really like my S&w1911pd, and my 340pd.

Bottom line get what you want and practice with it.

 

[4006990]

I like my Glock, well I really like my Glock, BUT I prefer my Walther PPQs

 

[Biggfoot44]

Ok , an *Other Brands* forum is acceptable to discuss other brands. But if I was looking for in depth experience in comparing Browning and Remington autoloading 3in shotguns , a CAS forum would be the best place to look.

But anyway on the origional topic :

If someone WANTs a PPQ on purpose , I won't try to stop them. But any comments on long term reliability and durability would be speculation. The Glock track record is well known. There is little that a Glock NEEDS to change. The standard stock trigger is certainly shootable. ( I might prefer a different factory trigger , but standard is very usable.)

 

[marathonrunner]

vp9

I don't have brand loyalties. If it works, reliable, durable, relatively inexpensive and has a good aftermarket support I'll buy it. This being said I carry a G19 for that reason. The Walther PPQ is a fine gun by all accounts but.....it doesn't have the track record of the g19, mags are expansive. If I wanted to pay close to $40 a mag I might as well buy a HK vp9. It has almost no aftermarket parts that includes night sights. I believe one company recently started making those, so that's a plus. I don't see a problem with Glock triggers. Shoot it and they will smooth out. PPQ trigger is smoother but longer and more mushy. You FEELING that the quality of the PPQ is every bit as tough as a Glock is not the same as it actually f being every bit as tough. Some of the earlier ones had trouble chambering some quality HP ammo like Gold Dot and HXT. I don't like their changes from M1 to M2. The move from paddle release to button screwed over a lot of people who invested in the M1 version. Those mags don't interchange and are not being made anymore. I understand that Walther is kicking around the idea of bringing back the M1 but it hasn't happened yet.

I have no problem with the PPQ and will likely get one one day but I'll wait till mags are cheaper, and it has been kicked around more

Your next question should be ...why would I buy a PPQ when the HK vp9 is just as cheap and has a proven track record! [emoji6] [emoji6]

The VP9 just came out and does not have a track record yet. In fact there is a known issue with regards to trigger return spring failure. I also own a VP9 and yes the build quality is by far better than PPQ as it seems more refined. The only thing I feel the PPQ reigns supreme is the trigger on PPQ is much better than VP9. But after owning the G19, the PPQ, the VP9, and if I was going to buy another pistol, it would probably be the Glock 19 for parts availability, the VP9 for ultimate quality, and the PPQ for it's precision. I am not convinced the PPQ could stand up to the abuse of GLcok 19 however

 

[DR505]

If it was me and I had the choice between only those two...I'd buy the Glock and with the money saved I'd buy ammunition. Glocks are ugly as the day is long, but they sure do work.

But why not try a 1911?