Why do some cops seem arrogant?
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I have a lot of cop buddies. Most are good guys, but some of them are dbags. I think the ones who are dbags is because they're all supplemented up and that affects their moods. They're also the type of people who are meat heads, but have low self esteem. I'm not saying all meat heads have low self esteem (heck, I was one for a few years), but my cop buddies who are huge meat heads have them.
In summary, they're like everybody else in every other profession. You have nice people, grumpy people, friendly people, antisocial people, energetic people, tired people, etc.
In summary, they're like everybody else in every other profession. You have nice people, grumpy people, friendly people, antisocial people, energetic people, tired people, etc.
My answer for that question is because they repeatedly have to deal with the bottom 10 percent of society on a regular basis. What the general public fails to realize is that there is a certain percentage of society that looks at crime like a job. They are too lazy to work. They believe they can out smart everyone by taking a shortcut-be it drugs, extortion, theft etc... Also when a police officer smiles at someone, they have no way of knowing until they interact with that person whether they are a criminal or an ordinary citizen. Now if they are dealing with a criminal, the guy might see if he can take advantage of the officer. BTW- this is my opinion and I am not a police officer. I could be wrong but I bet my thought hits pretty close to home. Be safe out there guys.
kamloops67
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oh, i get it now
. same reason most construction workers are aloof and somewhat impatient- the job sucks and most people you meet in a day are idiots intent on making your day tougher.
a tough veneer will stop a lot of bs before it starts
. same reason most construction workers are aloof and somewhat impatient- the job sucks and most people you meet in a day are idiots intent on making your day tougher.a tough veneer will stop a lot of bs before it starts
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The constant lying or story embellishment gets old quick. Had some tried an tiny effort to not lie so much? loads less of possible stress.
Doug M.
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The overwhelming majority of decent people have no clue what cops* do and see. It is as foreign to them as teaching gymnastics would be to me. Every time the cops deal with more than 1 person, at least half of that group will be more unhappy at end of it. There are some people who think they should treat cops as prey, and they usually can only be discerned by behavior. Sometimes decent people do something that looks like that behavior out of ignorance. It creates conflict.
*The same usually applies to CPS workers, prosecutors, and others whose life is based on coerced compliance, not customer service.
*The same usually applies to CPS workers, prosecutors, and others whose life is based on coerced compliance, not customer service.
In my lifetime, the only time I've really encountered a police officer in the line of duty was when I was pulled over for speeding. I'd estimate 15 times in 48 years of driving, and I didn't always get a ticket. In fact, more often I got a warning. Except for only a couple of times, the officers were polite, or at the very least professional. I had a couple who were rather "stern" and wanted to lecture me about speeding, and I listened. I've found that it pays to be courteous, and most have appreciated it.
I'll never forget the occasion that my wife had a flat tire on a busy street during a rainstorm. She put on her blinkers and was calling AAA, when a police officer pulled up behind her. She told him she had a call in to AAA, and he told her he'd change the tire for her, and get her on her way. I'm sure he wanted to clear the street too, before an accident occurred...even so, he could have remained in his vehicle until AAA arrived, but he changed her tire in the pouring rain, getting absolutely soaked in the process. My wife got his name, and we called in a thank you to his station. I hope they gave him some kind of commendation.
My wife loves to watch shows like Cops Reloaded. One night she asked me why the cops seemed to be so rough. I told her to look at the people they were dealing with on these shows...none of them were singing too loudly in church! Everyone lies to the police, and many times an officer doesn't know if the person they have pulled over or are trying to apprehend will try to kill them. I can't imagine dealing with scum all day long, and then trying to go home and have a normal life.
Yes, LEOs have some bad members, but so does any profession. (You want to talk about arrogant? See a doctor. I've rarely met any who didn't think they were a higher order species than me.) I appreciate the job the LEOs, fire fighters, and EMTs do for us.
I'll never forget the occasion that my wife had a flat tire on a busy street during a rainstorm. She put on her blinkers and was calling AAA, when a police officer pulled up behind her. She told him she had a call in to AAA, and he told her he'd change the tire for her, and get her on her way. I'm sure he wanted to clear the street too, before an accident occurred...even so, he could have remained in his vehicle until AAA arrived, but he changed her tire in the pouring rain, getting absolutely soaked in the process. My wife got his name, and we called in a thank you to his station. I hope they gave him some kind of commendation.
My wife loves to watch shows like Cops Reloaded. One night she asked me why the cops seemed to be so rough. I told her to look at the people they were dealing with on these shows...none of them were singing too loudly in church! Everyone lies to the police, and many times an officer doesn't know if the person they have pulled over or are trying to apprehend will try to kill them. I can't imagine dealing with scum all day long, and then trying to go home and have a normal life.
Yes, LEOs have some bad members, but so does any profession. (You want to talk about arrogant? See a doctor. I've rarely met any who didn't think they were a higher order species than me.) I appreciate the job the LEOs, fire fighters, and EMTs do for us.
Cops get into a good guy/bad guy mentality. When all you see are cops or dirtbags, its awful easy to do. Some start to believe that if you are not a cop, that makes you a dirtbag. I always tried to keep friends who were not on the force so I could keep my perspective.
Walk a mile Buddy, I'll bet you wouldn't last week. Dbags? Try calling Department of Children Services on Christmas Eve to hand over three kids because Mom and Dad are in a bar drinking. Kids left alone and nothing under the tree. Parents calling you all kinds of names. Merry Christmas Officer _______ wasn't one of them. Pick up the pieces of a twenty something young lady after she got hit by a train and you have to tell her husband.
Dbag.
Walk a mile, Buddy, walk a mile.
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I was a CJ major in college. I spent 40 hours/week for 6 months working alongside cops at my internship. Most of the cops at the department didn't like interns, but they all enjoyed working with me. I didn't stand there watching them, I helped them detain suspects, calm down irate citizens, provide medical services to the injured, and I helped them with the paperwork too. I spent over 4 years doing security at inner city sites. I dealt with the same exact people and didn't do it with the comforts of a vest or a gun. I currently work in the criminal justice field in the private sector. I'm an investigator for a company and prosecute individuals who defraud the company. I NEVER lost a case. Like I said, MOST cops I know are good people, but a few of the ones I am friends with are dbags. They were dbags before they were cops too. It's just their personalities. It's funny because I dealt with worse people while doing security in the inner city than some of my friends who are cops who pinch maybe, maybe once a month if you exclude DUIs in quiet townships/etc. My friends who are city cops deal with more degenerates than my friends who are suburban cops. Guess who are nicer people? My friends who are the city cops. My father was a Philadelphia firefighter for 36 years and dealt with a lot of bad people and incidents. He is one of the friendliest persons that anyone has ever met. The only reason I'm not on the job now is because of my asthma that I have suffered from since birth. Despite how this post may sound, people would describe me as a nice guy with a good heart. Again, MOST cops I know are good people, but there are dbag ones out there. Even our mutual friends (who are other cops) will admit that these friends of ours are dbags. Just because somebody wears a badge doesn't mean they automatically get a pass if they come off as a negative person. Even other cops will complain about working with other cops because "they don't like them (personality-wise)".
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You've never taken a Dale Carnegie course, have you?
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I'll add onto this. I have A LOT of respect for police officers for putting their lives on the line. I have, easily, 15+ friends who are police officers. When I was referring to the dbag ones I know, I was talking about 3 people specifically. These same 3 cops have also cheated on their girlfriends/fiances multiple times. Are we suppose to give them a pass on this because of the stuff they deal with at work? I can understand if a police officer is having a bad day. Everybody has bad days. However, I thought police departments are suppose to have stringent hiring processes so that they hire the right persons for the job. I thought police departments want officers who will act professionally in high stress situations; not officers who will act out more emotionally or break under stress. I hope this all makes sense.
feralmerril
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No fooling, one of my best friends I worked with is named John Law. John was a AP in the air force and then a cop before we worked together. John is about 6 ft 4"s and usually weighed around three spins on the scale. He could clown or be gruff. One day he was checking people in and a few he was gruff with and let others slide by. A supervisor was watching him and said john, how come you let that guy go and shook down that other one? John just growled, "I spot check!" The supervisor told me about it and was laughing and said all the guys working on his department either thought john was the roughest disposition or the greatest disposition on our department. John told me a story of when he was on the PD before I knew him. He had pulled over some old man and gave him a ticket. As he started walking away the old guy yelled at him, yer a d-- coward! Ya aint even got the guts to sign your real name!
williamlayton
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What gets most cops in trouble is thinking that everybody is going to do exactly what they tell the to do in an instant. We most often meet cops under stressful situations and we are trying our best to organize the situation to allow us to function---a wreck comes to mind in a very clear way.
Here comes this guy and you are trying to get it togther and get the car out of harms way and make sure no one is injured and here this guy is just arriving and the two cars have just about got it untangled--and the cop wants to change everything.
He does not take stock but wants to be in charge and when one of the two cars does not anticipate the new direction he wants, it get loud and threantening.
In a recent event--when the stars alligned just right--and I was trying to get another hambuger made my way and not just anything they wanted to slop out the drive-thru--the fat slob of a manager took it upon herownself to disagree with me and called the cops.
I was at the drive-thru window and three car's pulled up and blocked the back and front of me.
Cop one asked/demanded my DL & so-forth and so on. i gave it to him and he asked was I armed--I said no.
His next words were to move my car or he would arrest me.
I looked and him and asked if he could arrest me for waiting on a hamburger--but if he wanted to that would be OK with me.
Then another head took over and talked to the manager. Told me that I was lucky---I had not thrown the hamburger at her and they could not get me for assault.
Now what was I susposed to do with that information--what was the purpose of the statement---scare me ?
Folks, cops get very confused when they cannot intimidate it seems.
I got my money back and was told not to come back on that property for 24 hours---I asked him if it was OK if I never came back. he looked at me with a quizicle look.
Cops are so used to dealing with the lower one percent of the IQ line that they don't stop to think that some people actually have brains and can use them.
Now, in 73 years I have kept attorney's at arms length for ticket responses---I am not unuse to speeding, so I have had a number of less than coffee convesations with cops---most of them under very courteous circumstances.
Now, I like cops and have them as friends, I also know thet when they put on the gear I become something other than a guy.
Maybe I would also--but you never know---maybe not.
Blessings
Here comes this guy and you are trying to get it togther and get the car out of harms way and make sure no one is injured and here this guy is just arriving and the two cars have just about got it untangled--and the cop wants to change everything.
He does not take stock but wants to be in charge and when one of the two cars does not anticipate the new direction he wants, it get loud and threantening.
In a recent event--when the stars alligned just right--and I was trying to get another hambuger made my way and not just anything they wanted to slop out the drive-thru--the fat slob of a manager took it upon herownself to disagree with me and called the cops.
I was at the drive-thru window and three car's pulled up and blocked the back and front of me.
Cop one asked/demanded my DL & so-forth and so on. i gave it to him and he asked was I armed--I said no.
His next words were to move my car or he would arrest me.
I looked and him and asked if he could arrest me for waiting on a hamburger--but if he wanted to that would be OK with me.
Then another head took over and talked to the manager. Told me that I was lucky---I had not thrown the hamburger at her and they could not get me for assault.
Now what was I susposed to do with that information--what was the purpose of the statement---scare me ?
Folks, cops get very confused when they cannot intimidate it seems.
I got my money back and was told not to come back on that property for 24 hours---I asked him if it was OK if I never came back. he looked at me with a quizicle look.
Cops are so used to dealing with the lower one percent of the IQ line that they don't stop to think that some people actually have brains and can use them.
Now, in 73 years I have kept attorney's at arms length for ticket responses---I am not unuse to speeding, so I have had a number of less than coffee convesations with cops---most of them under very courteous circumstances.
Now, I like cops and have them as friends, I also know thet when they put on the gear I become something other than a guy.
Maybe I would also--but you never know---maybe not.
Blessings
LouisianaJoe
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I have worked with a lot of law officers. They have personalities just like the rest of the world. Some care about other people and want to help others. They will take control when necessary. My brother Charlie Sherrill is an example of an officer that will help those that need it but take no **** off of those that need that. I know other officers that are jerks and were jerks before they became law officers. Based on my experience, just like other professions, there are nice people and there are jerks. They were that way before they became law officers.
When I was a deputy, I believed that you give everyone a chance to be a jerk. When they did, I treated them like a jerk.
When I was a deputy, I believed that you give everyone a chance to be a jerk. When they did, I treated them like a jerk.
Bushmaster1911
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Cops are like any other people, good and bad among them. I respect that they have a job most of us wouldn't ever consider doing and the situations they can face as a result. I know this won't be a popular statement but here goes. The fact the job carries some authority I think does draw more than a fair share of control freaks and guys on a macho trip.
I have a lot of good friends that are cops and the majority don't suffer from this affliction. The ones that do, you know you're dealing with instantly if you ever get pulled over by one. My dad was a state trooper when I was born and my son is active duty Army as a 68W. He was home on leave last month for Christmas. We had this same conversation and he just rolled his eyes and said "yep, when I get a call where I have to deal with the MPs I know I may be dealing with an E3 who thinks he's a General".
I'm not trying to bash cops but even the cops on here know the guys I'm talking about. Every Dept. has a few of "That guy". He's the same one that often gets his face all over YouTube regularly.
I have a lot of good friends that are cops and the majority don't suffer from this affliction. The ones that do, you know you're dealing with instantly if you ever get pulled over by one. My dad was a state trooper when I was born and my son is active duty Army as a 68W. He was home on leave last month for Christmas. We had this same conversation and he just rolled his eyes and said "yep, when I get a call where I have to deal with the MPs I know I may be dealing with an E3 who thinks he's a General".
I'm not trying to bash cops but even the cops on here know the guys I'm talking about. Every Dept. has a few of "That guy". He's the same one that often gets his face all over YouTube regularly.
I spent 33 yrs. "on the job" by choice, and I feel I earned the right to be arrogant at times. I have seen a whole different world than the average citizen, and some of things were so ugly and bad that you just had to be there to understand. My fellow LEO's on the list know what I am saying. I have been in two OIS's (2-0 good guys) and present during a third. There were a few times where I got punched, kicked and spit on, and I lost the battle. But, with a little help from my friends in the "thin blue line, we went back and WON the war. One injury required surgery and a couple of stitches took care of the other times.
My biggest disappointment was missing so much of my kids activities as they grew up and all the holidays where dad was working and not home (7 straight Christmas's). Yes, I did the job by choice so I'm not complaining, but as Club Gun Fan say's, walk a mile........
People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.......George Orwell
My biggest disappointment was missing so much of my kids activities as they grew up and all the holidays where dad was working and not home (7 straight Christmas's). Yes, I did the job by choice so I'm not complaining, but as Club Gun Fan say's, walk a mile........
People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.......George Orwell
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I was going to type up a nice long winded eloquent response, but just couldn't seem to find the right words. The following will have to suffice...
We deal with a world that is unimaginable to the average citizen. Sure, the job is tough and frustrating, but occasionally we get to put a truly bad person away or help a true victim and to me, that makes it all worth while. Yep, some cops are arrogant jerks. However, it's been my experience that most are good men and women trying to do the right thing. Even if we are a little gruff from time to time.
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We deal with a world that is unimaginable to the average citizen. Sure, the job is tough and frustrating, but occasionally we get to put a truly bad person away or help a true victim and to me, that makes it all worth while. Yep, some cops are arrogant jerks. However, it's been my experience that most are good men and women trying to do the right thing. Even if we are a little gruff from time to time.
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