Why Is the 3” J Frame Not More Popular

It is interesting that the 3” K Frame is more desireable than the 2”, but the J seems to be just the reverse.

Your observations and comments please.

From a LEO perspective. The two inch was usually a BUG (Back Up Gun) to a primary revolver.

The three inch were preferred by Detectives because in the old days you had to qualify every other month (six times a year). Some Detectives carried four inch revolvers. So everybody was not a Sergeant Friday. His partner carried a four inch.
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Years ago I carried a nickel 3” J with a bull barrel & fixed sights. Stoked it with 200 gr. .38s, figured I wasn’t going to get much velocity so I may as well have a heavy bullet.
You know they stopped making 200 grain ammo about forty years ago?

158 grain LRN does put down bad guys better well.
 
I had a pair of 640 Centennials with 3" barrels. Now that was a strange looking revolver. Something that you just don't ever see up for sale. I had no trouble selling them.

Then there was a model 37 lightweight with a 3" barrel. I still regret selling it.
 
I like the looks and feel of a 3 inch barrel. Found this 1975 vintage square butt, heavy barrel Model 36-1 a while back, but the girlfriend seems to have taken a shine to it. I think all the three inch 36-1 were heavy barrel.

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Luckily, while the J-frame is TDY at her house, I still have a 3 inch Police Positive Special made in 1915.

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As others have noted a 3 inch carries better in a holster than a pocket, but I am fond of them.
 
One of my favorite S&Ws artifacts is a collection of catalogs from the late 60s - early 70s.

Looking at the catalogs makes me wish that I had started collecting S&Ws from that era a lot earlier. It also makes me think of the opportunities that S&W missed.

It would have been interesting to see a 4” model 36 or 37. S&W still offered at the time a 4” J frame in .22 , .32 and .38 S&W. It would have been an easy step to finish the 4” barrel forging in .38 Special. I think that a 4” square butt Chief Special would have made a good light weight service revolver for either uniform or plainclothes carry. Colt did this with the Police Positive and Cobra.

Anyhow, I think that the 3” Chief is a neat little gun. All mine are 2” but I would grab a 3” if one comes my way.
 
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I like the 3 inchers as well. Maybe it's me but it just feels right, compared to the 2". Like you (OP) I hardly ever pocket carry and the light weight makes it a snap to shove into a paddle to run into town for an errand...
 
My only J-frame is my pocket gun. If it had a 3 inch barrel, the butt with be sticking just above the edge of the pocket and no longer concealed. If I am going the route of open carry, I might as well make it a K frame and gain an extra round.
 
Twos, threes, I like them all. Fixed or adjustable sights, they're all good.
I have a few of each because variety is the spice of life.
You only get to keep one wife at a time, so why limit yourself in other areas? :D
 
I personally think that certain Model/Barrel length combinations are just right, and others seem a bit off.

The proper combinations:

J-frame? 2"
K-frame? 3"
N-frame? 4"
 
Well if S&W won't make them, the chance of a fixed-sight 3" Smith J frame ever becoming popular is nil.

The 3" Ruger SP-101 is not setting any sales records, especially at it's high retail price with downhill quality for what it is.

The Kimber K6S has a 3" version and has a very modest following. For all the internet fawning over the Kimber, it's butt ugly with a cheap looking allen head sideplate screw, and has a clap-trap feel and look to it. Just this week I had occasion to observe a female new handgun customer. She was shopping and shown the Kimber K6S. She handled it and promptly passed, saying it felt like a toy cap gun. I found this newbie's observation quite apt. (PS. Ironically, she ended up buying a S&W EZ Shield .380, which has just as much in common, in terms of construction, with a toy cap gun, as does the Kimber!)

Of course, Colt nuts will buy anything adorned with a dancing pony. Colt could put a vapor finish on revolver shaped dollop of post-digested horse fodder, and these folks would be screaming for Colt to take their money, right out of an episode of the Price is Right. Regardless, the New King Cobra 3" has potential, but it suffers from the high price and flaws of the recent Colt guns.

In spite of merit or otherwise, all these revolvers suffer from the stigma of... being a revolver. The vast majority of new shooters are largely "uneducated" through YouTube, which exists to make money for the content creator, via the gun manufacturer. Net result of those messages is that cheap to make and high profit pistols, mostly cast/MIM/stamped and polymer framed, are the greatest battle implements ever devised!

The new gun owner views the revolver as a novelty throwback to a bygone era, something you see in shop worn TV detective series from the 1960s, or a Western movie. Most of them do not know the difference between a single action and double action revolver, nor do they care one wit. When they buy one it's a range toy for giggles and "gee-wiz!"

Paul Harrell's prescription of "Old does not mean Obsolete, and Obsolete does not mean Ineffective," does not make much of an impression with these folks clamoring for more at gun counters. When selecting a handgun for self-defense - the main market these days - these customers look past the revolver counter like a 23 year old girl at middle-age man's gin mill.

[Interesting observation: With a few notable exceptions, you rarely see the actual on-target results of these YouTube Influencer Experts. The viewer is mostly thrilled with views of the Influencer in cool eyewear and muscle tees/operator wear - firing the gun over and over. If you are lucky you will hear some large pieces of steel occasionally ringing off camera, like every 3d shot. In my prior business this would be called a "clue", to the value of what you are watching.]

So, you are starting with a limited market to begin with. Add to that the view of revolvers as a range novelty, which the manufacturers play into as dollar signs roll across their eyes, eg. the ridiculous S&W Custom Shop (there's an oxymoron fer ya) X-frames, or the Taurus "Raging Whatevers". Then factor in the mindset that "defensive revolvers are for pockets, BUGS and hideouts" - as if the S&W K frame and Colt PPS, produced in the millions used by police, military and citizens for decades, never existed.

What you have left as manufactured for self-defense in revolvers is largely a bunch of aluminium, scamdium or plastic framed revolvers, firing too powerful cartridges (More Is Always Better!), with too-short barrels.

Sad indeed. Where's the DEI Mandate for revolvers?

Charter Arms and Taurus make a few 3" guns, and those do in fact sell pretty well, because they generally work, and aren't priced to the moon.

Truth be known, I've had a few fixed-sight 3" Model 36 .38 Specials over the years, and they never shot much better for me than the 2" guns. Recoil with stiff loads is, if anything, worse. Practical accuracy - not much difference. Pointability is better, but it doesn't fit in your pocket or ankle well. Might as well carry a larger framed better-shooting revolver in a hip holster.

As far as the "full-length ejector rod advantage" goes, if you think a 1/2 second advantage in reloading speed over a 2" 5-shot gun is significant in your sphere of activity... I humbly suggest that 1) carrying a substantially more capable handgun, or a shoulder weapon, 2) hiring bodyguards, or 3) making a change in venue, might be money better spent.

Back in the day... in police work, the 3" J frames - often in .32 S&W Long - were usual issued to "lady police matrons", to fit their smaller hand. I suppose I'm not supposed to say things like that anymore.

Well, I'm not trading my 3" Model 31s. You never know who you might meet...;)
 
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Back in the day, I wanted a 2" model 60, but they were scarce. I settled on a 3" nickel model 36. The 3" points better and is much easier to shoot well. I carried mine in a shoulder holster. These days, my model 60-10 is my favorite revolver.
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