Will Pete Rose be voted into the Baseball HOF anytime soon now..... ?

[azhobo]

Pete Rose should have been in the HoF years back, and would have been if Giamatti hadn't been on a power trip.
Was Rose wrong to have bet on baseball? Of course he was, it was one of the rules of the Majors, BUT......... it has never been proven, or even disputed, that Pete ever once bet against the Reds. Had he been found guilty of betting/playing against his own team, then yeah, a ban would have been in order. Look at the long list of players who committed more serious offenses, and were reinstated, not only into the game, but also to the HoF eligible list.
Have you ever read Pete's apology letter to Manfred? Pete wrote it when he was 81 years old, and seemed very sincere in his apology. He took responsibility for his actions, regretted them, and damn near begged to be considered for being on the eligible list. He knew when he wrote that letter that there was no way he'd live long enough to be inducted, he simply asked to be removed from the banned list.
As has been said before....... Let he among you who hath no sin, cast the first stone. In my mind that still applies.

Regards to all,
Bob

 

[lightstar_actual]

For a kid who watched the Dodgers play in the LA Coliseum and saw guys like Campie, Duke, Drysdale, Wells, and Kolfax play, Rose was as good as they came in his day. The sad thing is that this should have occurred before he passed away. Too little, too late, IMHO, regardless of the outcome.

 

[BlackAgnes]

ROGER MARIS, first.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

He'll get in. The Mendez brothers will get out. Life goes on.

 

[Chuck24]

Vincent and Giamatti’s family blamed Pete for Bart’s early death, and led the charge to keep him out. Even now, the family is upset that they weren’t consulted.

 

[taz666]

I loved baseball my whole life. As kids we looked up to the players. There are rules in the game and in the life around it. Pete Rose rolled the dice eyes open.

 

[Muss Muggins]

More troubling to me are the questions surrounding his relationship with a minor when he was in his 30's . . .

 

[Denverd0n]

I'm glad they waited until after his death to reinstate him. I don't think he belongs in the Hall of Fame, but neither do I have a big problem with him being in there. There is no doubt that he will be elected to the HOF.

And as an aside, I think that what Jackson did was much worse.

 

[BigMuddy]

+1 on Roger Maris. The only thing he did wrong was hit more HR’s in a season than Mantle did, and pissed off the New York media.

I have to admit I was glad Pete never got in because he was such a jerk. Most players who get in the HOF seem humbled by the selection. Don’t recall any other player campaigning for it, but Rose was a narcissist.

Before my time, but I guess if being a jerk kept a player from being in the HOF then Ty Cobb wouldn’t be there either.

Dan

 

[MAUSER888]

I sure hope so. One of the all time best!!

 

[CMcDermott]

I think in 2028 that Shoeless Joe will be voted in, but Rose won't be for a couple more years after that as there is too much anger over his gambling. Eventually Rose will be voted in as the old guard of sports writers die off and are replaced by people who are only looking at Rose's stats.

 

[Model19man]

I don't have an opinion one way or another. I used to live in the Cincinnati area. I had a friend named Bud Scudder (RIP) who was in high school with Pete Rose. Did not know him just saw him on the local news occasionally. Marge Shott was on more often, she was famous for wanting to smoke in her seat when she owned the Reds. Can't remember what the outcome was but I think if I owned a team I would want to do anything I wanted at games. Within reason of course but smoking seems like a pretty reasonable ask.

 

[Rustyt1953]

I don't have an opinion one way or another. I used to live in the Cincinnati area. I had a friend named Bud Scudder who was in high school with Pete Rose. Did not know him just saw him on the local news occasionally. Marge Shott was on more often, she was famous for wanting to smoke in her seat when she owned the Reds. Can't remember what the outcome was but I think if I owned a team I would want to do anything I wanted at games. Within reason of course but smoking seems like a pretty reasonable ask.

The other ownership partners and the team took serious issue with Marge letting her massive St Bernard, Schotzie, take dumps on the infield and make the grounds crew clean it up.

PS: I took my HS drivers ed in a 1969 Electra deuce and a quarter with two steering wheels donated by Marge.

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em, boys.

 

[Model19man]

The other ownership partners and the team took serious issue with Marge letting her massive St Bernard, Schotzie, take dumps on the infield and make the grounds crew clean it up.

PS: I took my HS drivers ed in a 1969 Electra deuce and a quarter with two steering wheels donated by Marge.

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em, boys.

I guess the local news did not cover her St. Bernard but that would be a problem for me!

 

[Rustyt1953]

I guess the local news did not cover her St. Bernard but that would be a problem for me!

Schotzie was continually plastered on the evening news sports segments.

Also the players started complaining about Marge smoking while talking to them as most of them didn't smoke and found it off putting..

I admit she was indeed a character.

 

[Smoke]

I mean, I don't see the point, but I have no objection.

Wherever Pete Rose is at today, I don't believe he's ever going to know or care that they put him in the Hall of Fame or not.


What I do believe is that somebody decided he was never going to be in the Hall of Fame and I think they deliberately waited till after he died as a final insult.

And whoever did that, I don't think I'm supposed to use the word on this forum and I really hope that if I just happen to mention the letters AH it doesn't count as creative spelling.

But I think waiting till after he died to admit him to the Hall of Fame is an AH move.

 

[Model19man]

Schotzie was continually plastered on the evening news sports segments.

I guess the other stations might have. I never saw that. It's pretty funny though.

 

[petepeterson]

It's not the Hall of Integrity, but somehow Ty Cobb is in there.
No Clemens, no Bonds, no Rose. At a minimum, a top-5 all-time pitcher, the Home-run king, and the hit king.
It makes no sense that they aren't in.

 

[SW41MAG]

He'll beca unanimous vote the 1st time he's on the ballot in 2026.

 

[Chuck24]

I'm glad they waited until after his death to reinstate him. I don't think he belongs in the Hall of Fame, but neither do I have a big problem with him being in there. There is no doubt that he will be elected to the HOF.

And as an aside, I think that what Jackson did was much worse.

Don’t agree, what Jackson got in trouble for was knowing about it and keeping it to himself. No evidence he actively participated in throwing the game. The man was illiterate, he couldn’t organize a trip to the toilet