Triggernosis
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Agreed! *** S&W?
Would you buy a 6-shot .38 J-frame
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I have two....
....so that must mean SOMETHING.
....so that must mean SOMETHING.
Well, it's after 10 PM and my hip is killing me, so I'll have to wait at least until tomorrow to take a photo of my Rossi 462 with a K-frame. And I already slammed down my thoroughly-vetted and heavily regulated Opioid, so if I fail to hit all points or don't make sense, we know why.
Anyway, I disagree. Even the S&W Model 73 was smaller than a K but larger than a J. Since they are nonexistent for us mere mortals, I can't measure one to see the difference. But as I mentioned, the Rossi an older one from the 1990s, is about as close to identical to a S&W in design and construction as you're likely to see. For one thing, the chambers are not "closer," because it's too big for any molded J holster, meaning the cylinder is definitely larger than a J. But it's also too small for a K holster. And I popped the side plate once to see what the fuss was with the recall, and I'm tellin' ya, it's a CLONE in there. It has all the same parts.
For sake of adding to the measuring conversation, I have a couple of Taurus Model 431s, 5-shot 44 Specials. They are nearly identical to a K-frame! Might be off a millimeter or two, but not enough to matter. They fit in all my K holsters, including my molded Israeli Front Line brand.
As far as messing with the hand-ratchet combo, I'm sorry but I don't buy it. If I remember, I'll just photograph a J, a K, and the Rossi together. Good night, y'all!
I will get some pictures up for comparison, if my absent-mindedness doesn't grab me.
I always wanted Smith to make an alloy framed K-frame with 2" barrel and round butt. Fixed sights would be fine, thought a dovetailed front would be a nice touch.
.38spc would be fine.
I'd be fine with a bobbed hammer though I suspect not everyone would be.
Such a gun would be easy for Smith to produce, at least easier than adding a new frame size.
It would be a modern Model 12.
The 442/642 are great simple, no-frill defensive guns. That's how I'd see this. Just more shootable and with one additional shot.
.38spc would be fine.
I'd be fine with a bobbed hammer though I suspect not everyone would be.
Such a gun would be easy for Smith to produce, at least easier than adding a new frame size.
It would be a modern Model 12.
The 442/642 are great simple, no-frill defensive guns. That's how I'd see this. Just more shootable and with one additional shot.
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In real steel versions there is about a 10 ounce or so difference in weight between a 60/640 snub and a snub K 10/66. So S&W would have to put tons of money into tooling up for a new frame size between the two for basically one gun, a 6 shot DS sized revolver. A gun that a number of competitors already produce, so its not like they would be cornering an untapped market either. Split the difference between what exists and you are maybe saving 5-6 ounces over a K. Or adding 5-6 ounces over a J for one more round. Doesn't make sense for them to put that much time and money into it for such a small return.
What would an alloy framed K frame weigh?
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A 2" model 12 is listed at 18.5 ounces.
I already did. It's called a Colt Cobra.
I already did. It's called a Colt Cobra.
I know that Colt is a nice gun. I had one.
For actually shooting though, especially DA shooting, I strongly prefer the Smith's action.
lawandorder
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Might be easier to lobby Smith to expand their offerings in the .32 Mag.,327 Mag. J frame series including an all steel Centennial version.
No internal locks please & Thank you!
Link to Lucky Gunner article on 32 Snubs.
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/why-the-best-snub-nose-caliber-is-32/
No internal locks please & Thank you!
Link to Lucky Gunner article on 32 Snubs.
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/why-the-best-snub-nose-caliber-is-32/
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I am all for it.
Back in the 90s S&W did all that in the Model 315 Night Guard. Its frame was machined for standard adjustable sights but it was supplied with a large fixed rear and dovetailed front. Sales were a dismal failure. It was not priced to compete with J frames but that does not explain why those of us who collect medium priced S&W revolvers would not buy it.
The obvious thing that has not yet been mentioned in this thread is that while automatics are selling like hot cakes new revolvers linger on the shelf. The only revolver I found in the new June/July American Rifleman is one ad for a snub. Other wise, nothing. That's a weak market to engineer a new frame for.
Yep. I almost mentioned the 315. I didn't buy one either to be honest.
They were expensive if I recall correctly. Perhaps if there was a similar model built to the level of a 442/642 it would do better???
I did run into one 315 at an LGS. Dang if it didn't have the worst, most gritty, stagey trigger I'd ever felt on a K frame.
For what they wanted for it, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
If i had known I'd never see another, I probably would have bought it anyway and dealt with whatever issues the gun had.
You've seen one more 315 then I have.
There were a few variations of 7 shot aluminum L frame snub nose .357s. The ones with titanium cylinders would not weigh much more that a Model 12. Considering price and availability one might be the way to go.
I'll leave it to someone else to get the thread back up on the rails.
There were a few variations of 7 shot aluminum L frame snub nose .357s. The ones with titanium cylinders would not weigh much more that a Model 12. Considering price and availability one might be the way to go.
I'll leave it to someone else to get the thread back up on the rails.
You know that really hit home during the recent Antifa/BLM induced panic buying.
The local guns store got pretty barren looking. Looked like plagues of locust came through and took off with all the guns.
But they left the revolvers....decent revolvers...586s, 686s, 64s, ... guns that would actually make sense for a first time gun buyer.
I'm sure those revolvers still sell, but it really hit me that they are just not what the masses want these days.
kbm6893
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Making one would put it on par with a K frame. But why have they discontinued 2” K frames? I’d like one of those. I know I can get a used Model 64 or 10, but the fact that they are no longer made makes them stupid expensive. Make a new 64 in 2” Without the lock and I’m interested. They can make j frames without the lock. They can make k frames without one too.
Groo01
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Groo here
Hogue has an aftermarket rubber grip for the DASA k6s..
Got one for my K6s DASA 3in.
Covers the backstrap and allows me to shoot mags!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hogue has an aftermarket rubber grip for the DASA k6s..
Got one for my K6s DASA 3in.
Covers the backstrap and allows me to shoot mags!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
double-dipper
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Sure if it were stainless steel in 327 mag. No space age plastics or pot metal frames for me.
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HorizontalMike
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By the way, in reference to the above, I choose to self-mandate that I stick with .38+P for accuracy. Nobody "likes" the recoil of a .357 in a light-weight small-frame revolver. Me neither... I have a couple .357 4in 'rs for that!
Small frame and "accuracy" is the name of the game, and NOT Magnum P.I.... ;-)
Just my 2-cents...
Small frame and "accuracy" is the name of the game, and NOT Magnum P.I.... ;-)
Just my 2-cents...
