cmj8591
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If you shoot it enough, all of those little things will get covered with carbon and you won't notice them. So long as the gun is timing up ok, there is nothing there that will prevent it from leading a long and fruitful life.
Would you send this gun back if you'd just received it?
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JJOG
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Send it back! This is why I only want S&W from the 1980's and earlier!
smoothshooter
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I would send it back on their dime and make the careless slackers at S & W fix or replace it.
If we were talking about a $300 gun, I might overlook those problems as long as functioning was okay.
But not in this case.
If we were talking about a $300 gun, I might overlook those problems as long as functioning was okay.
But not in this case.
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I'd send it back and ask for a replacement gun or my money back. There have been too many instances in the past few years of botched repairs by S&W for me to trust them to fix that list of flaws in a timely and workmanlike manner.
smoothshooter
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I often read the phrase " tackle box gun ".
Who keeps an expensive gun in a tackle box anyway?
I mean, REALLY?
Can't believe that passed QC. Send it back.
My 2 cents are this. The flaws do bother you. Everytime you look at this gun it will aggravate you. Send it back. They may not fix every flaw but hopefully most will get resolved. Sorry and good luck. And by the way its easy to miss things on the first look.
Thanks for all of the advice. I'll send it back. I could probably just overlook all of the cosmetic stuff, but the chip or gouge in the cylinder bothers me. I wouldn't buy a used gun with that damage or blemish or whatever it is, not for any price. Certainly don't want a new one with it.
My uncle bought a Ruger Security Six in the 80's for $50 because the previous owner threw it in a tackle box for an undetermined amount of time and some plastic or rubber lures melted to the top strap and the backstrap. It ate a horrendous amount of the steel off of it. It reminded me of a burn victim, lord forgive me. It got passed down to me. It was a great shooter.
My uncle bought a Ruger Security Six in the 80's for $50 because the previous owner threw it in a tackle box for an undetermined amount of time and some plastic or rubber lures melted to the top strap and the backstrap. It ate a horrendous amount of the steel off of it. It reminded me of a burn victim, lord forgive me. It got passed down to me. It was a great shooter.
I would agree about sending it back. Back in the mid=1980s I purchased a new Model 624 that had a problem with the cylinder dragging right from the start. I sent it back under warranty with the observation that in places the cylinder was dragging on the forcing cone. When I got the gun back, not only was the cylinder no longer dragging, but it felt like S&W went over the entire gun and smoothed it up.
outta_ammo
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Honestly, I would not buy a new S&W wheelgun anymore. The old guns were/are glorious. But they've become an afterthought now. Most of the revenue comes from M&Ps so that's where the focus is.
Not trying to be a crustacean here, just facing business realities. I'm very happy with my Shield+ as an EDC, but it will never compete with my pre-60s wheelguns for my affection and admiration. They truly don't make them like they use to.
Not trying to be a crustacean here, just facing business realities. I'm very happy with my Shield+ as an EDC, but it will never compete with my pre-60s wheelguns for my affection and admiration. They truly don't make them like they use to.
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Unacceptable. You paid good $$ for a new product which should be exactly that...new, pristine, unflawed.
How YOU will use it, and how its condition/appearance will be at a later time is totally irrelevant.
How YOU will use it, and how its condition/appearance will be at a later time is totally irrelevant.
Rpg
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Hard to know.
I wouldn't be surprised if they told you it was all in spec so there's nothing to be fixed. Don't get your hopes up.
I think if it was mine, I would first take a deep breath. Then send some pictures to Smith . {and talk to the place that you ordered it from}
I would check the forcing cone gap. Look at the crown and rifling closely. And then shoot it. The crown and end gaps are important, but the few scuffs are nothing. {much of which could have been done at the store either by you or by the sales people.
The stop notch should be documented. You bought it to shoot. Only the stop notch is really needed to be questioned and documented. {The stop notch is also obviously from the factory and not done after the box was opened either by you or by the store}{many times the new gun boxes are opened by the store to copy the serial number and verify everything. {some might check the screws for tight} A nice shooter is a nice shooter and that is never fully guaranteed to be such {new or old}
If it's a nice shooter and the stop notch is documented in case it ever becomes an issue ,{I doubt that it ever would be an issue since there is plenty of notch to do what needs That part of the notch is a non issue, it's the bottom of the notch that is important....just cosmetic, the notch is deep enough} they can fix that anytime. {meanwhile you can shoot it.
{they might just prefer to do it now}{would probably have to fit a different cylinder} The other things are just on the shroud and of little importance. I kind of like that the tops of the letters are missing. Makes the gun unique and easy to pick out of a crowd. {is the shroud properly plumb and the sights lined up?}
I would check the forcing cone gap. Look at the crown and rifling closely. And then shoot it. The crown and end gaps are important, but the few scuffs are nothing. {much of which could have been done at the store either by you or by the sales people.
The stop notch should be documented. You bought it to shoot. Only the stop notch is really needed to be questioned and documented. {The stop notch is also obviously from the factory and not done after the box was opened either by you or by the store}{many times the new gun boxes are opened by the store to copy the serial number and verify everything. {some might check the screws for tight} A nice shooter is a nice shooter and that is never fully guaranteed to be such {new or old}
If it's a nice shooter and the stop notch is documented in case it ever becomes an issue ,{I doubt that it ever would be an issue since there is plenty of notch to do what needs That part of the notch is a non issue, it's the bottom of the notch that is important....just cosmetic, the notch is deep enough} they can fix that anytime. {meanwhile you can shoot it.
{they might just prefer to do it now}{would probably have to fit a different cylinder} The other things are just on the shroud and of little importance. I kind of like that the tops of the letters are missing. Makes the gun unique and easy to pick out of a crowd. {is the shroud properly plumb and the sights lined up?}
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We too often accept poor quality. If it has that much we can see, what's on the inside? Good luck and let us know the response.
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I would send it back! I know most gun buyers are exited when they go to the FFL to pick up their new guns, but a close inspection is essential. Use this as a learning experience. S&W should be ashamed for shipping something like that but it's more common these days than not (unfortunately). Just goes to show how much pride (or lack of) they have in what they produce - not much from your pictures.
I would e-mail them pics' first...did that with one of mine and they quickly had me send it back....call first and explain why you're sending pictures and document all and every time you speak with them...no sense in returning it if they're not going to work on it
With my limited experience sending guns back with 3 different manufacturers, S&W being one, I would not send that gun back; as long as it's okay mechanically and safe. If it were some special order showpiece, yeah. One company has a very fast turn around on repair work. Others are not quite that quick. Happy shooting.
It's up to you, though, and your hard-earned money. I would assume I'd receive a nice new gun that I could put the 1st scratches on. They could send you a pack of screws at the very least.
It's up to you, though, and your hard-earned money. I would assume I'd receive a nice new gun that I could put the 1st scratches on. They could send you a pack of screws at the very least.
