I was in college, March 1987, when I decided I couldn't live without a 4" 686. My dad had to buy it for me and pick it up a few days later when it came in from the distributor. Being the 80's I immediately traded the grips to a gunshop (with a few $) to get some proper Pachmayr Grippers. Sold the gun about 13 years ago and bought it back about 4 years ago. It would be the last gun I would ever sell now. Wish I had the original grips or at least knew what they looked like.