sigp220.45
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Gun, yes. Toy badge, no.
Concealed weapon Badge
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Gun, yes. Toy badge, no.
CAJUNLAWYER
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Best way do that is to have N-O-T-H-I-N-G in your hand when the popo shows up. Believe it or not the ganstas carry badges so when the cops show up they can gain that split second od indecision on the part of the popo thus allowing them to get off the first shot. The popo now know this nad understandably will absolutely shoot an armed unknown in order to eliminate the perceived threat. Then and olny then will the crime scene be considered secure. They will soon realize their mistake but you will be dead and the popo's insuror will have a GREAT defense to any wrongful death claim your family may bring. I realize by your posts in this thread that you are probably yanking us but I just had to respond in the off chance you are actually serious.
BTW and not meaning to show any disrespect are you by chance related to Geko45???
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This is where I’m at. He’s nothing if not firm in his conviction. As Grandma Muggins would say, “Bless his heart . . . “
Mike_Fontenot
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So should Johnny Hurley (in the recent Arvada, Colorado attack) have retreated when he saw the bad guy kill the first cop, instead of killing the bad guy, and thereby probably saving the lives of many innocent victims?
CAJUNLAWYER
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Depends...was he wearing a badge???
Mike_Fontenot
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I don't know Geko45. But since you are a Cajun, you're probably familiar with my last name, since there are thousands of Fontenot's in southern Louisiana.
Mike_Fontenot
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No, and I think Hurley might have not been shot by the 2nd responding officer if he'd had a badge visible from a distance.
You're speculating. How much time elapsed between when the officer was killed and the first responding officer arrived? Hurley may have died for a few seconds of delaying a murderer who had re-armed himself but not yet fired the AR-15. When the responding officer hit the scene, he took immediate, decisive action - I'd have preferred it had been against the murderer than a good citizen.
Don't develop strategies from incomplete information.
transit
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If one doesn't know what COTD stands for, then one also likely doesn't know the proper, trained-to-be-reflexive response to a police challenge.
Each step in the responding officer's decision chain that a guy holding a gun and a badge fails, makes him more likely to get shot by that responding officer. Not less.
Each step in the responding officer's decision chain that a guy holding a gun and a badge fails, makes him more likely to get shot by that responding officer. Not less.
Heck! I went to the acronym finder and here's what I came up with. Obviously not the correct magic phrase.
Cardiac Output by Thermodilution?
Complete On Time Delivery?
Catch Of The Day?
Comment Of The Day?
Children Of The Damned?
Call Off The Dogs?
Clan Of The Dragon?
Circle Of True Doom?
Clash Of The Dinosaurs?
Car Of The Decade?
Cougars Of The Desert?
Cross Of The Dutchman?
Click On The Differences?
Circus Of The Dwarfs?
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You’re just gonna keep this flapjack on the griddle, ain’t ya’ . . .
Maybe on Mos Eisley. I don’t know it. Explain it, Yoda . . .
transit
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Heck! I went to the acronym finder and here's what I came up with. Obviously not the correct magic phrase.
Cardiac Output by Thermodilution?
Complete On Time Delivery?
Catch Of The Day?
Comment Of The Day?
Children Of The Damned?
Call Off The Dogs?
Clan Of The Dragon?
Circle Of True Doom?
Clash Of The Dinosaurs?
Car Of The Decade?
Cougars Of The Desert?
Cross Of The Dutchman?
Click On The Differences?
Circus Of The Dwarfs?
It's far from "secret" but it is not something that needs to be discussed publicly. IMHO.
Then why bring it up?
Old Corp
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Over my LE career, I ran into a number of 'wannabee's' - often in LE lookalike Plymouths or later Crown Vics - usually festooned with all manner of antennas.
The CC badge makes me connect it with just that sort - a geekzoid, if you would.
For LE I worked with, contact with someone flashing the CC badge would have them checking every database they could to see if there was any connection to impersonation cases involving abduction, rape, 'blue light bandit' cases, etc.
My badges are locked away except for some duplicates affixed to a retirement plaque.
I just carry a laminated department ID card marked retired to go along with my LEOSA card, as required.
The CC badge makes me connect it with just that sort - a geekzoid, if you would.
For LE I worked with, contact with someone flashing the CC badge would have them checking every database they could to see if there was any connection to impersonation cases involving abduction, rape, 'blue light bandit' cases, etc.
My badges are locked away except for some duplicates affixed to a retirement plaque.
I just carry a laminated department ID card marked retired to go along with my LEOSA card, as required.
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sigp220.45
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COTD is color of the day. Some departments have their UC guys wear a specific color, and brief it at roll call. I don’t know of any place doing it now.
Mike_Fontenot
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There ARE still lots of unanswered questions. Maybe eventually we'll get a more complete picture.
It HAS been acknowledged by the Arvada Police Department that many innocent people would likely have been killed without the intervention by Hurley. That implies that there WAS a significant time gap between Hurley's killing of the bad guy and the responding officer's arrival.
One important piece of information is that the bad guy used a shotgun to kill the first officer. He then went to his truck, and traded the shotgun for an AR-15. When the responding officer arrived, he had been told that the bad guy had an AR-15.
For unknown reasons, Hurley was holding the bad guy's AR-15 when the cop arrived. WHY he was holding it is currently unknown, at least by the public. Had he shot his handgun dry, and grabbed the AR-15 in case there were other bad guys? If not, why didn't he just slide the AR well away from the bad guy with his foot, in case the bad guy wasn't dead yet? If he picked it up for no good reason, it was indeed a bad move on his part. Did the responding officer attempt to communicate with Hurley? Where was Hurley pointing the AR when the cop saw him? Hopefully, eventually answers to the above questions will come out.
transit
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Mike_Fontenot
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Thanks. That still wouldn't provide any protection for an off-duty cop from another jurisdiction who happened to be present at the scene of the shooting. That's when being able to display his badge might save him.
geeollie
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What about the tee shirt showing a big tin can with the label "Whoop A$$" with the caption reading, "Don't make me open this".
Would this work as good as a badge?
Would this work as good as a badge?
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