In no-carry places much of the time

[ace1001]

Ah California, so many retards, so few worthy of self defense. Isn't that what your legislature has said

 

[gunsnjeeps]

Ohio CCW is cumbersome. I'm originally from Ohio and spend some time there occasionnally. Virginia concealed carry is legal in your vehicle when dropping off or picking up your kids but not out side of the vehicle. Open carry is legal for on premises alcohol, concealed is not.

Model520fan, the poster from Oregon is correct, they can legally carry in bars and schools.

 

[hittman77]

Paddle holster or pocket carry

My feelings exactly.

 

[Forester]

There are no laws preveinting me from carrying in bars or schools

Where do you live? Every state I know of has very strict laws in this regard. What am I missing here?

No such laws here in NH.

 

[therevjay]

Where do you live? Every state I know of has very strict laws in this regard. What am I missing here?

Oregon has no restrictions on CC in bars, or schools.

 

[sipowicz]

I guess the upside of a state like Cali is CCW's are less restrictive since they don't hand out a lot....

On the California CCW application it says:

While exercising the privileges granted to the licensee under the terms of this license, the licensee shall not,when carrying a concealed weapon:
1.) Consume any alcoholic beverage.
2.) Be in a place having a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site consumption.
3.) Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.
4.) Refuse to show the license or surrender the concealed weapon to any peace officer upon demand.
5.) Impede any peace officer in the performance of his/her duties.
6.) Present himself/herself as a peace officer to any person unless he/she is, in fact, a peace officer as defined by California law.
7.) Carry a concealed weapon at times or circumstances other than those specified in the permit.

I'm not sure if these apply to reserve peace officers as I have not seen any of these regs in the dept. paperwork I filled out...

 

[bubbajoe45]

WA does have the 1,000 foot Rule and they do enforce it. Whenever they can catch someone; which ain't often!!!

Those licensed to carry a concealed weapon [in WA] may carry a firearm while picking up or dropping off a student on school premises. Most schools are within 1000ft of the road, and there is also specific language about driving past a school (if you have a permit, it is exempt).

 

[Spotteddog]

Be polite. Don't get stupid. Treat the cocktail waitress like she is your sister in-law. Keep your back against a wall as far away from the register, and as close to an exit as possible. Carry whatever floats your boat as long as it truly is "concealed". And none of the worst case scenario's will ever happen. Fail to do any of the above, and nothing will prevent the worst case scenario from unfolding. A Cop's always right. So your job is to make sure he or she doesn't have to do their job. If I'm scared enough of a place to not want to be drinking there W/O packing, I better find a better zip code to drink in? Like at home!

 

[Knightrider03m]

While I do not encourage anyone to break the law, I am in agreement with Pinger and GatorFarmer.

Yep. For any LEO looking, this statement is for you, "Although I will never carry in a no carry zone, ever."

 

[Pontiaker]

Iam also lucky in CA to live in a county that has a women Sherriff that is actually pro gun and gives permits to those that pass the application process.

Since its so hard to get permits here(CA in general) you just dont see No Firearms signs, around here at least. Iam with the metal detector crowd, I never leave my gun in my car, ever. If a business around here had a posted sign Iam not going to frequent that business, they will not get another penny from me.CA is not as bad as everyone thinks, especially in the conservative areas of the state, where I live. Lots of gun people here, lots of great outdoor activites and beautiful country to enjoy still.

I cant believe some of the crap a few members are spewing here, why do you even own guns if your so liberal in your views about carrying them....

 

[smitholdtimer]

Trying to understand the differences

I have been trying to figure why I am only trustworthy in certain areas, my values don't change by going into a post office or court house or on a school premise. What makes it possible for me to be trusted on the street but not in my bank? Personally I think it is B.S. and leaving a gun in the car is an invitation for theft. This subject always causes me to Rant and Rant and Rant. Is it just me?

 

[TACC1]

owb3;
What you should do BEFORE trying any carry method for the first
time, is to go to a "big-box" store, like Wal-Mart, and get something
of about the same size and shape of the carry method you want to try out. A cheap electronics device or camera case for example. Put in it
something legal, like a snack or a couple rolls of pennies. THEN,
go about your daily routine. If anyone should notice, you'll know you're not doing it right. Don't ask anyone if they can tell, just see if anyone
notices enough to respond. You'll find that NO-ONE WILL NOTICE.
If you hang around/work with, people who check you out, you've got
the perfect test, and a ready answer. You'll also find out if anyone
has a tendency to get intimate enough to be feeling your body.
If you're not willing to experiment, you won' carry, anyway.
TACC1

 

[cmort666]

I obey the CCW laws in Ohio.

I'm very well known for my vicious attitude toward cops who break the law. Why should I hold myself to a different standard than that to which I hold them? Is it wrong for a cop to unlawfully harass me for concealed or open carry, but it's right for me to break those same laws when it suits me?

Nobody has to like the law. They just have to obey it. If you don't like it, get it changed. If you can't get it changed, move. You don't see me living in Chicago bragging about how I carry illegally, then complaining when I get arrested.

 

[flop-shank]

Nobody has to like the law. They just have to obey it. If you don't like it, get it changed. If you can't get it changed, move. You don't see me living in Chicago bragging about how I carry illegally, then complaining when I get arrested.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

That's what the highest man made law in this country says about the issue.

 

[cmort666]

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

That's what the highest man made law in this country says about the issue.

You print that out and go open carrying down State Street in Chicago at noon tomorrow. Who knows, if you actually fight your arrest rather than rolling over, you might get Chicago's gun ban overturned.

 

[flop-shank]

You print that out and go open carrying down State Street in Chicago at noon tomorrow. Who knows, if you actually fight your arrest rather than rolling over, you might get Chicago's gun ban overturned.

Cmort, just like you, I have no desire to be a test case. I don't go where my guns will get me in trougle if at all possible, so I stay out of Illinoying. I guess the point I want to make is this, if a person takes off their guns because they want to stay out of hot water with the authorities, even though the "law" they would be violating is unconstitutional and unjust, that's their decision and i can respect that. It's real easy to tell the other guy to put himself in hot water. On the flipside, the man who violates an unconstitutional law is doing nothing immoral, though his actions may have serious consequences. The immoral ones are the politicians who take an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution, then immediately turn around and pass unconstitutional laws one after another. Such actions are the epitome of lawlessness.

Rest assured, I do believe people have a moral imperative to obey constitutional laws, no matter how idiotic they may be.

 

[cmort666]

Rest assured, I do believe people have a moral imperative to obey constitutional laws, no matter how idiotic they may be.

My point is that I'm on record as wanting to fry cops who misbehave, without mercy. I can't honestly take that stance and then violate the law myself.

If I don't want cops to make up laws that prohibit open carry, or require you to notify when being told at gunpoint to shut up, I can't make up my own laws that say I can ignore gunbuster signs or carry into statutory CPZs.

One law for all. Bad cops and people who hate all cops don't believe in that. That's just not me.

 

[Practical]

Question from new CCW licensee: There are so many places you can't carry. I work at a university, we take the kids to school, go to school events, almost every restaurant serves alcohol, etc. All no-carry places in our state.

Is it on and off and on and off with the firearm all day? How do you approach this?

Honestly you can't legally carry in my state even with a Permit.

Schools are no carry zones, universities are no carry zones, state, local and federal buildings are no carry zones. Bars are no carry zones, resturants which serve alcohol, I am not sure about.

Also Open carry is illegal and carrying your guns in a gun rack in a pickup is borderline accepted.

Frankly I carry ONLY when I KNOW I am not going any of these places.

Work is also a no carry zone by their policy. They would fire me and likely call the police if someone had a weapon. Our school and workplace policy forbids even pocket knives or any blade not provided for a work task.

 

[bk43]

On the flipside, the man who violates an unconstitutional law is doing nothing immoral, though his actions may have serious consequences.

Small point, but there is no such thing as an unconstitutional law. Until a court rules otherwise, all laws are constitutional regardless of what anyone thinks. That's how the system works in this country.

Bob

 

[photoman]

Small point, but there is no such thing as an unconstitutional law. Until a court rules otherwise, all laws are constitutional regardless of what anyone thinks. That's how the system works in this country.

Bob

Technically, a law is neither until finally ruled on by the SCOTUS. This IS the "Achilles' heel" of our system and our would-be masters have used it to great effect.