Need someone with a clear head for homicide numbers.

[Delos]

Someone better at doing searches and crunching numbers, than I, needs to look at this and help.
The three links below end up at the “Homicide By State and type of weapon” at bottom of this page.
My problem is that it lists California as 1,790 total murders for 2011.
Next closest is Texas with 1,089 murders.

The other states fall off dramatically.
Naturally there are many small states on the very populated East Coast.
Just like there are many many small cities that make up the “Greater Los Angeles Area”.

I believe there are valuable numbers hidden in the mass of smaller Cities and States. For example I cannot just compare New York to Chicago or Los Angeles because Los Angeles is such a small part of the greater number of cities that the Greater Los Angeles Area has become.

FBI Uniform Crime Reports 2011
(at below site click on Homicides - and it goes to the next below)
FBI — Crime in the U.S. 2011

(At below site go to “Expanded Homicide Data Tables” then click on the fifth one down “weapons” and then I clicked on “20” at end of sentence)
FBI — Expanded Offense Data

You end up here with all the states - numbers of homicides by each basic weapon.
FBI — Table 20

(Again I only clicked on Table 20, I will look at this again in about 12 hours if my head does not explode).

 

[Delos]

Most homicides are drug related?

Understanding the problem - why our guns need more laws

Los Angeles 2011
Homicide Victims, 50 pictures to a page.
Photos - Homicide Report - Los Angeles Times

 

[DrDyno]

Someone better at doing searches and crunching numbers, than I, needs to look at this and help...
The other states fall off dramatically...
I believe there are valuable numbers hidden in the mass of smaller Cities and States.

I believe this guy can help clarify your view. Crime falls way off in areas (cities) with less than 250,000 population.

Choose Your Own Crime Stats - YouTube

 

[venomballistics]

1790 seems rather low to me.
back in 94 I worked for a company that made the evidence bags for the LAPD. a single run of a single size would number 20K or so. multiply that by something like 8 sizes in similar numbers twice a year and they have a demand 320K evidence bags annually.
of course, these aren't just used for murder scenes, but I would think, crimes serious enough to warrant collection of evidence in general.
those number just dont sound right.
while I worked there I had a coworker from Chicago whos prior job was making body bags for the city of Chicago. it was a three shift 24/7 job.
they report 3 digit murder figures?!?!
no son the numbers are being fudged and drive by's are being called car accidents to hide their shame

 

[Old TexMex]

I believe this guy can help clarify your view. Crime falls way off in areas (cities) with less than 250,000 population.

Choose Your Own Crime Stats - YouTube

A very important weapon in our arsenal. Also note, Texas population has swelled from people moving in from northern urban areas and L.A. Texas also has the firing line called the Rio Grande, directly ajacent Nuevo Laredo, Matamoros and Ciudad Juarez.

 

[glowe]

I think what you need to look at is homicides as compared to population. Here is a distribution of homicides per 100,000 population and California drops well down the list.

USA Homicide

 

[Old TexMex]

I think what you need to look at is homicides as compared to population. Here is a distribution of homicides per 100,000 population and California drops well down the list.

USA Homicide

FBI stats show a concentration beyond quarter million yield double the homocide rate. The figures of population/urban poverty concentration shows the cultural issues that produce the day in, day out violence. We don't have any reason to compare one state with another, unless we are trying to justify Californias gun laws. The mayor of Washington DC said the stats for Washington were very good, regarding violent crime, if you discounted homocide. Great!

NOTE: In OP link, see "caution against rankings" it illustrates how these stats can and are used by biased organisations.

California, for all its gun control, shows nearly twice the number of homocides by firearm when compared to Texas. Texas population counts do not include the giant Mexican contiguous cities of Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, and Matamoros either.