LVSteve
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Yeah, what is with the media. Fancy them redacting all the political stuff and the perp's support for POTUS when they posted his manifesto.
Ex Cop, now cop killer on loose in L.A. Careful.
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Yeah, what is with the media. Fancy them redacting all the political stuff and the perp's support for POTUS when they posted his manifesto.
Interstate 10 goes through El Paso, I think I'll just check my weapons again to make sure they're OK in case I have to use one quickly.
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If he goes through El Paso, let's hope he makes a wrong right turn into Ciudad Juarez smack into the Zetas who mistake him for an American working for El Chapo. That's a win/win if you ask me.
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Last night I read just about the whole report of his original accusation that his partner, a woman, mistreated and kicked a suspect. I was up until 1:30 a.m.
I believe he is a liar. If you read the report, I think any reasonable will come to the same conclusion. In fact, his partner, was trying to help him with this emotional problems, help him get into the "reintegration" program that the LAPD Offers, help him with his performance, etc.
All 3 civilians who witnessed the original scuffle stated they never saw his partner kick the suspect. All 3.
He waited for 2 weeks to file his accusation and it came after his partner, the LAPD woman said she would have to give him a poor performance rating. He even cried on on occasion because he knew he was having trouble "reintegrating."
This guy is a liar, a racist, angry, brewing, brooding, monster. He lied on the original report, he lied when he said she completed some of the report, and asked him to not mention that she kicked the suspect, etc.
That is my opinion after reading the entire report including witness statements, etc.
I believe he is a liar. If you read the report, I think any reasonable will come to the same conclusion. In fact, his partner, was trying to help him with this emotional problems, help him get into the "reintegration" program that the LAPD Offers, help him with his performance, etc.
All 3 civilians who witnessed the original scuffle stated they never saw his partner kick the suspect. All 3.
He waited for 2 weeks to file his accusation and it came after his partner, the LAPD woman said she would have to give him a poor performance rating. He even cried on on occasion because he knew he was having trouble "reintegrating."
This guy is a liar, a racist, angry, brewing, brooding, monster. He lied on the original report, he lied when he said she completed some of the report, and asked him to not mention that she kicked the suspect, etc.
That is my opinion after reading the entire report including witness statements, etc.
williamlayton
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Folks---you can turn this into a nut thing if you wish. I think ---in some sense he is justified for his rightousness being trampled on.
I may condemn his actions---but he seems to be doing what is righteous in his eyes.
I don't think it will be as dangerous for those searching for him---maybe a few---but God help those he has the vendetta for,
He is really going to have to screw up big time to not get too a few of them.
Blessings
I may condemn his actions---but he seems to be doing what is righteous in his eyes.
I don't think it will be as dangerous for those searching for him---maybe a few---but God help those he has the vendetta for,
He is really going to have to screw up big time to not get too a few of them.
Blessings
MaximumLawman
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He's not going to get any more people on his list. I think there's a decent chance he'll eventually surrender or be captured alive. He can't air his grievances anymore if he's dead.
Yep. He was feeling desperate so he tried to make a play for a big bag of money as a whistleblower. I bet he tried for a duty disability too. Funny how so many people are willing to take his "I flipped because nobody believed me when I tried to pierce the Blue Wall of Silence" BS as the truth.
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venomballistics
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FYI these are the two trucks owned and driven by innocent civilians shot up. The suspect was driving a grey Nissan Titan
I could jump aboard this argument if it were isolated to his motivation. his claims of departmental problems just might be spot on.
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cmort666
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Even if EVERYTHING Dorner said was a lie (and I don't yet have an opinion one way or the other), the mere fact of the shooting of the citizens indicates DEEP problems in the LAPD (as well as Torrence PD).
Nothing that was done to him justifies what Dorner did.
Nothing that Dorner did justifies what the LAPD and Torrence PD did to those citizens.
The odds are one set of crimes will be punished and the others not.
feralmerril
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Wheather everything he claims is 100% true or false is 0% excuse to kill innocent people he never met even if they are the children of people that wronged him. He is bomb that has to be stopped.
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Some very valid points.
What scares me is the "copy cat" effect. For example, do you think there are others in the LA area that might have grudges against law enforcement?? You bet your bobsled there are. What if some of these doo-dahs get the idea to start taking shots at cops, thinking that their actions will get blamed on Dorner?
I hope they get that bozo soon.
I hope they get that bozo soon.
venomballistics
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Mine opinion is still forming.
Dorners target selection is one of a vendetta rather than an attempt at applying a solution.
A snipers first target is leadership followed by communication and hardware for a reason.
He assassinated the family of one he held a grudge against and randomly hit patrol officers. He ain't no hero.
What I can give him credit for is that he might be onto something about departmental problems ... and thats it.
cmort666
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When I was in Korea in '81, a Muslim (Nation of Islam, I think) soldier went on a shooting spree while his unit was on the range, killing his platoon sergeant and several others. The platoon sergeant walked in front of the platoon leader just in time to get shot instead of the lieutenant. I talked to the latter while I was giving his unit a class on North Korean and Warsaw Pact weapons and tactics.
When the Military Police Investigators and CID started looking at the crime scene, certain things didn't add up. People had gotten shot who were not in the killer's line of fire. When they worked backwards from the additional victims' points of impact, they determined that they were shot by a SECOND person. It turns out that the second shooter was another soldier with some grudges which he took the opportunity to settle in the preceding chaos.
Court documents show an ex-girlfriend of Dorner's said he was "severely emotionally and mentally disturbed" after they broke up in 2006. Dorner tried to get an injuction to keep her from posting his badge number on a "don't date him" website, but the injuction was denied.
It gets curiouser and curiouser.
It gets curiouser and curiouser.
cmort666
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I've got no use for Dorner. He shot people who did nothing to him. He had no legal right to shoot those whom he claims DID wrong him, even if true.
I've got no use for the cops who shot those citizens. I haven't the slightest doubt that they'll be similarly full of self-serving justifications for what they did. Unfortunately, there's every chance that unlike Dorner, who'll probably end up dead, they'll just walk away from what they did smelling like roses.
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cmort666
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I question the mentality and the morality of anyone who supports either Dorner or the cops who shot the women delivering papers. And just today, I've seen examples of both.
People with evil agendas will support evil people doing evil things. And they say evil things in furtherance of that.
LVSteve
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For those that do not know, there are PLENTY of people in Big Bear of all races who have no love for authority and the LAPD in particular. He could well be holed up with an anti-authority sympathiser.
joeintexas
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Actually I can't tell you how many times I have looked at two asian women under 5 foot tall and said to myself ..look a black man over 6 foot tall.
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