I have never been a conspiracy theorist but

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do you all know that federal agencies including military installations do not recognize the state issued CCWs? if you are caught with a concealed weapon on a federal military installation then you will have that weapon taken from you and will probably never see it again.

Among chem- trails, 2nd amendment attacks, and NATO

I am fully on board with the tin foil hats.........
 
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This may be news to a small group of people on this forum, however, it is not anything that started recently. My first CCW was issued around '83 and the laws then prohibited military bases, Federal buildings, state county and municipal buildings and airports. Did I mention police stations as well? Even when I was in the Navy in the early 70's one couldn't bring firearms on base. I don't understand how this is something conspiratorial. I'm willing to be educated.
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Let me add my .02......West Germany 1970....U.S. Army. Over a period of a few months I purchased through the U.S. Air Force run Wiesbaden Rod and Gun Club two rifles and a shotgun. With each purchase I had to get my CO's written permission and then register the guns with the Mainz MP office. Because I lived in the barracks the guns had to be stored in our company arms room but I could take them out any time I wanted and go to the range. Had I lived off base I could have kept the guns at home.

As a sidebar to this and a whole another story.....When I left Germany for the states I carried all three cased guns through Rhein-Main airport in Frankfort, through military security and boarded the plane for JFK. The guns were stored in a closet behind the cockpit. When I got to JFK I carried the cased guns through the airport and boarded a plane for Atlanta and the guns went in the overhead. When I got to Atlanta I carried the guns through the airport and was picked up by family. The only questions asked of me was "Do you have any ammo?" The answer was no every time. I doubt that I raised any eyebrows through any of my travels.

My, my, how times have changed.
 
What's scary is bases are starting to have permanent residents register their firearms.

Well, there's more to it. If you live on post you have to register your firearms. If you live off post but want to use the POW range you have to register as well. Everybody has to register, active, spouses and retirees (whoever brings them on post). At least that how it is here at Ft. Sill.
 
Chem trails, I don't know anything about.
NATO, not sure what they're up to.
2nd Amendment attacks: not a theory, but there is conspiracy(by definition).
Federal restriction of personal firearm possession on federal property: also not a theory, but the law.
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Tinfoil is for baking potatoes.
 
Chem trails, I don't know anything about.

It's funny how just by looking at a weather map I can predict with perfect accuracy if planes will leave contrails that linger and spread out into cirrus clouds or if they'll just dissipate. Oops, I mean chemtrails...:rolleyes:
 
Chem-trail = Genetically engineered crop seeds

NATO = one world government

2nd amendment = disarmed citizens/ robots so they can sheep herd everyone

Barry Seal and Operation 40

it is all there whether you all choose to believe it or not is up to you.
 
Well, there's more to it. If you live on post you have to register your firearms. If you live off post but want to use the POW range you have to register as well. Everybody has to register, active, spouses and retirees (whoever brings them on post). At least that how it is here at Ft. Sill.


I entered the Army in 1963 and that was the way it was then.
 
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it is all there whether you all choose to believe it or not is up to you.
Well, if we stick to evidence, facts, reason and logic, believing in something or not shouldn't be matter of personal choice

We also can't legally carry in the post office -- doesn't mean chemtrails are real.
 
They can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. (I know that's true because I read it on the internet.)
Conspiracy theories are a great way to keep people arguing amongst themselves while the framework is being dismantled. Sort of the way an illusionist makes jumbo jets disappear, or a pickpockets stall takes a big balloon to a parade (look up, look up!) oops, bumped into you, sorry...:D
 
I entered the Army in 1963 and that the way it was then.

I joined in '62 and it was the same. When I came back from overseas I had to keep my Walther P38 stored in the arms room. If I wanted to use it I had to check it out and return it when finished.
 
No guns in federal buildings. First thing they told us in ccw class when telling us where NOT to carry. Federal buildings, schools, the state fair grounds, and casinos. (for Iowa anyways)

Ive heard you can carry in national parks now... as long as you dont walk into ANY of the buildings (including restrooms) with a gun on you.
 
Schools are off limits, too, I hear. Might be just a rumor but if they've closed off military bases, federal buildings, and post offices, anything is possible.

Never seen a chemtrail, but I have seen a bullet leave a contrail.
 
Ive heard you can carry in national parks now... as long as you dont walk into ANY of the buildings (including restrooms) with a gun on you.
A bit more to it than just being able to carry in any national park. You have to be legal to carry in the state where the national park is located to carry within that national park. So if a state does not honor your IA permit then you cannot carry in the national park located in that state.

And who would have thought a person couldn't CCW on a military installation. That's probably where the government is storing all those billions and billions of rounds of ammo that they are buying up. Nope, no conspiracy here.
 
As a sidebar to this and a whole another story.....When I left Germany for the states I carried all three cased guns through Rhein-Main airport in Frankfort, through military security and boarded the plane for JFK. The guns were stored in a closet behind the cockpit. When I got to JFK I carried the cased guns through the airport and boarded a plane for Atlanta and the guns went in the overhead. When I got to Atlanta I carried the guns through the airport and was picked up by family. The only questions asked of me was "Do you have any ammo?" The answer was no every time. I doubt that I raised any eyebrows through any of my travels.

My, my, how times have changed.

I agree, times have changed. Try doing that now a days and you probably won't make it from the airports parking area to the terminal building without being arrested.
 

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