NY sheriffs: We won't enforce gun laws, magazine limits

Last count all but one or two County Clerks around the state had requested the repeal of cuomo's safe act. It is loaded with unfunded mandates for implementation and conformance in paperwork and record keeping that is to be passed down to the counties.

The "opt-out" paperwork to insure your name NOT be released as part of FOIL requests cost counties tens-of-thousands of dollars in administrative and clerical hours and paperwork. And that "gift" from Albany wasn't even part of cuomo's safe act!

cuomo's safe act is vastly unpopular in every place except in the NYC area (where people can't possess guns anyway)! I'm not sure which LE agencies will or won't enforce cuomo's safe act, but I'm quite sure those who are directly employed by the state (NYS Troopers, etc) will be forced to (regardless of personal beliefs).
 
Deciding whether or not to enforce a law happens every day. It's called discretion. There's old laws still on the books that are outdated and new laws that some officers just don't like. They don't get enforced and there is no way any supervisor can make you enforce one unless they're riding in the cruiser with you. Any of you LEO's ever poured out the booze at a teen gathering, carried a drunk home, or issued a warning? I think a lot of discretion will be used with some of these new laws. They're going after the wrong people and most cops know that.
 
Deciding whether or not to enforce a law happens every day. It's called discretion. There's old laws still on the books that are outdated and new laws that some officers just don't like. They don't get enforced and there is no way any supervisor can make you enforce one unless they're riding in the cruiser with you. Any of you LEO's ever poured out the booze at a teen gathering, carried a drunk home, or issued a warning? I think a lot of discretion will be used with some of these new laws. They're going after the wrong people and most cops know that.
Discretion used when pouring out some teenager's booze or not obeying a direct edict to confiscate a now "outlaw" firearm is a vast difference...
I expect if and when it all comes to a head most will acquiesce to the Governor's wishes or be squeezed out of their positions.
 
Discretion used when pouring out some teenager's booze or not obeying a direct edict to confiscate a now "outlaw" firearm is a vast difference...
I expect if and when it all comes to a head most will acquiesce to the Governor's wishes or be squeezed out of their positions.

Who is going know that the good officer even saw the alleged "assault weapon" during the traffic stop or welfare check, etc.?
I could also see an officer removing the 8th, 9th, & 10th rounds out of a magazine and handing back to the "offender".

"Yes, sir. When I inspected his magazine, I found 7 rounds in it."


Of course it will depend on the individual LEO, and I'm sure that whatever offense caused the stop will be considered as well.

Headlight out with 10 rounds in a magazine - get that light fixed, have a good night.

Driving drunk with 10 rounds in a magazine - now there's a problem.
 
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Who is going know that the good officer even saw the alleged "assault weapon" during the traffic stop or welfare check, etc.?
I could also see an officer removing the 8th, 9th, & 10th rounds out of a magazine and handing back to the "offender".

"Yes, sir. When I inspected his magazine, I found 7 rounds in it."


Of course it will depend on the individual LEO, and I'm sure that whatever offense caused the stop will be considered as well.

Headlight out with 10 rounds in a magazine - get that light fixed, have a good night.

Driving drunk with 10 rounds in a magazine - now there's a problem.
In your scenario...perhaps but I was thinking more along the lines where a systematic warranted roundup of now NYS illegal firearms were to occur. Discretion would be rather more difficult to be justified within the ranks of SWAT team sent out to do the Governor's bidding. However unlikely to happen in the near future it is still something to ponder.
 
Deciding whether or not to enforce a law happens every day. It's called discretion. There's old laws still on the books that are outdated and new laws that some officers just don't like. They don't get enforced and there is no way any supervisor can make you enforce one unless they're riding in the cruiser with you. Any of you LEO's ever poured out the booze at a teen gathering, carried a drunk home, or issued a warning? I think a lot of discretion will be used with some of these new laws. They're going after the wrong people and most cops know that.

The first "violation" of the law, was refused by the Columbia County DA. He used his discretion, and I'm sure the Gov was not pleased. Nonetheless, outside NYC, I would expect more "discretion". There's 2 NYS's, very much in opposition to one another.
 
To add, Sheriffs are elected by the local folks. They answer to us, not the Governor. There's a primary in my county, the 2 candidates are arguing over who's more 2nd A friendly.
 
To add, Sheriffs are elected by the local folks. They answer to us, not the Governor. There's a primary in my county, the 2 candidates are arguing over who's more 2nd A friendly.





I have gotten 4 robo calls about the election, 2 from each of the candidates.:D

The primary winner tomorrow WILL be the next sheriff; the other party opponent is dead in the water.

FWIW I did hear a rumor that the present Pistol Permit clerk is staying on when her husband retires!
 

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