American Cuban Model

[Boge]

I have never seen a list of the serial #'s for the 111 2nd Model Americans that were sold to Spain & shipped to Cuba in the 1870's. Is there such a list or does only Mr. Jinks know? This is surely the rarest Model 3 extant as no one has ever seen one. One would think that with approx. a 10% survival rate for weapons of that era there are a few tucked away in some pueblo.


When Castro dies you fellas oughta bankroll me on a Cuban excursion to seek one out!! LOL!!

 

[Mausermike]

I'm from Canada and I am more than willing to go TODAY on your behalf lol

 

[opoefc]

Boge, What is the source of your info. regarding such a shipment? There are several poor condition American models in collections, that were found in Cuba, however the daybooks in the factory archives are inconclusive as to any direct orders that went to Cuba. Ed.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

A while back a guy here in town was so convinced that we should drive up to Cuba, NM and check on this Walker Colt. I could not convince him that we could find a UFO in Cuba easier than a Walker. It reminded me of Skeeter trying to convince his alter ego Juggs?..
not to go on a Walker Colt wild goose chase in Mexico.
Not that I don't like a chase. But i need some probability of success!

 

[Boge]

Boge, What is the source of your info. regarding such a shipment? There are several poor condition American models in collections, that were found in Cuba, however the daybooks in the factory archives are inconclusive as to any direct orders that went to Cuba. Ed.

It's in the Supica book. Although there were only 37 Nashville Police Americans ordered there at least 10 or 12 surviving I believe. No one has seen a Cuban American Model of the 111 shipped. I have seen photos of a surviving Argentine export American.

 

[opoefc]

Jim must have had a source for the statement in the book. I proof read that portion of the book ( the statement first appears in the 1st edit. ) and I vaguely recall some discussion with Charlie Pate & Jim on the order. The American model shipping records are mostly nonexistent and Roy Jinks and invoices are relied on to estimate shipping info. and serial numbers, however bottom-line is that the serial numbers were not recorded in a fashion that we can rely on to connect to an order for the 111 guns. Ed.

 

[Boge]

I have always wondered if anyone ever made an effort to contact a descendant of M.W. Robinson on the off chance that his records reside in an attic.

 

[opoefc]

Rumors have circulated in the gun fraternity for years regarding the records of the major gun distributors of the 19th & early 20th century era. M.W.Robinson, Hartley & Graham, Wolf & Klar, etc. . Sometimes it's the family that still has them, or some collector has found them, and they will be published in the future, etc. I'm still waiting. Ed.

 

[Boge]

I'm in Brownsville, TX for now & started to dig in a little here on Wexell & DeGress as they had their armoury here, but info is tough to find.

 

[1900colt]

Rumors have circulated in the gun fraternity for years regarding the records of the major gun distributors of the 19th & early 20th century era. M.W.Robinson, Hartley & Graham, Wolf & Klar, etc. . Sometimes it's the family that still has them, or some collector has found them, and they will be published in the future, etc. I'm still waiting. Ed.

little OT but I have a few of H.M. Quackenbush's copy books from the late 1800's-early 1900's. These are direct copys of Quackenbush's letters...