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I went to the range today to shoot up some partial boxes of .38 special wadcutters so I could reload as full boxes. One in particular did not make a sound of any kind when I pulled the trigger. I immediately thought that I had a broken firing pin.

I checked the round and found that the primer was indented just like all the others. It had me confused because if I had not put powder in the case, the primer alone should have moved the bullet into the barrel, correct?

I brought it home, pulled the bullet, and found that I had the correct amount of powder in the round. Then I removed the primer and found that it did not have any priming compound.

I have hunted since I was 14 and reloaded since I was 23 and have never seen a primer with NO priming compound.

Anyone else here seen this????
 
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Had some 209 shotshell primers like that back in the 90's. 3 out of 100. Unfortunately they all were found while I was participating in a "Fun" shoot for some cash and prizes....
 
Federal primers, by any chance?
There has been a high occurrence of that exact thing at my local gun club in the past months. We purchase primers in huge lots, 20k-30k at a time, for the PPC shooters. I have a "case" going on with Federal, right now. I had 3 rounds in 60, not go off. Then, in the next round, I had 2 more not go off. I pulled all of the rounds when I got home, same issue, no priming compound.
 
Not yet, but primers are mass produced by the billions so once in a while stuff happens. Primed my first case in '69, and all mis-fires were my fault...
 
In the last year I have had a couple cci large rifle primers like that in loads for my .22-250. Struck them twice and they didn't go off. No priming compound. Irritating to say the least. I also had some Hornady factory ammo that had a dud.
 
Just goes to show that with a dud.............

Revolvers are KING !!

Yes, that's weird. Never had it happen to me.
Bummer for the guy going for prizes..........

If we live threw it..........no big thing.

It's a new year......get it on !!
 
I've had a very few.....

I've had a very few total duds in 35 years and it seems like I a had a couple out of the same box. Quality of everything is slipping nowadays, it wouldn't surprise me if in big lots of primers there aren't a few duds.
 
I have found 1 or 2 with no priming compound and 1 or 2 with no anvil for a total of 3 bad primers. Glad I was using a flipping tray. I cannot remember brand, most likely Winchester. I used to buy them by the sleeves or case of 5000.
 
It does happen. I've had Factory loaded Remington .38 Special rounds (2 of them) that had bad primers. This happened years ago and they were sent back to Remington at their request after I called them. They did send me a voucher for a few boxes of replacement ammo and a letter of apology. Don't recall it ever happening to me with re-loads, but a primer is a primer.
 
Just goes to show that with a dud.............

Revolvers are KING !!


It's a new year......get it on !!

Yes, but with squibs, semis are safest.

At least with a semi, a squib is very unlikely to cycle. This should set your squib alarm off.

With a revolver, the only thing that will alert you is a reduced recoil. That is, unless the bullet sticks in the forcing cone, keeping the cylinder from revolving.

FWIW, I like revolvers. My model 10 is my favorite to shoot at the range.
 
I loaded up my RCBS hand primer with Remington SPP the other day and noticed one was missing the anvil. Not sure what the result would have been but I tossed it anyway.
 
Not in over 40 years of reloading no duds of primers. I just had an issue with some Fed small primers dimpling but I am used to Winchesters. It would appear others have had this issue. If man makes it it is easy to fail.
 
I loaded up my RCBS hand primer with Remington SPP the other day and noticed one was missing the anvil. Not sure what the result would have been but I tossed it anyway.
It won't fire without the anvil. Had some Tula primers that couldn't hold on to their anvils once.

Found a few anvils jammed in the primer slide on my LnL AP. Loaded them (ETA: the anvil-less primers) into otherwise empty shells and tried to fire them - my standard way of preparing unfired primers for disposal.

Of course, they didn't fire.
 
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I had a box of 20 rounds of PMC 5.56 last month that had powder in it. One of the primers had fallen out and was in the bottom of the box. First time I've seen that. The other 19 were fine and shot well.
 
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