Someone always sights that error, and then cites it for all to see - on this very site! If you find it irritating, I recommend Evan Williams. I suppose a small ice cube is acceptable, if you must adulterate it.While we're on the spelling issue can people please write "sights" not "sites" for gun sights. It's extremely irritating
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Rastoff
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Darkenfast
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I used to be a revolver fan, but have gradually moved over to the semi-auto camp (more by chance than anything else). My old Browning High-Power is about the size and weight of a three-inch barreled K-frame, minus the cylinder bulge. It holds at least twice as many rounds. It is easy to shoot. Depending on the load, the BHP's power per shot is midway between .38 Special and .357 Magnum, with little fuss and recoil, and I am fine with that. The old "revolvers are more reliable than autos" statement doesn't mean anything to me because both are sufficiently reliable to get the job done. And it's got pretty blueing and nice wood grips, just like that K-frame.
If I go up a size, my six-inch barreled Glock 17L is about the same size as a four-inch barreled revolver, minus the cylinder bulge and a LOT of weight. It carries up to three times the rounds of the K-frame. It has the sight radius of a six-inch barreled revolver, and the long barrel not only cuts down on the decibels, but it soups up the 9mm Parabellum quite nicely. It is extremely reliable, very easy to shoot accurately, and is my choice of weapon for TEOTWAWKI-type imaginings.
That's just me. I simply don't see any reason to go back to revolvers for defensive shooting. I wouldn't feel bad if a revolver is what I had, because as the late Stephen A. Camp said: "You're more likely to run out of time than ammunition". Stick with what you can shoot well.
If I go up a size, my six-inch barreled Glock 17L is about the same size as a four-inch barreled revolver, minus the cylinder bulge and a LOT of weight. It carries up to three times the rounds of the K-frame. It has the sight radius of a six-inch barreled revolver, and the long barrel not only cuts down on the decibels, but it soups up the 9mm Parabellum quite nicely. It is extremely reliable, very easy to shoot accurately, and is my choice of weapon for TEOTWAWKI-type imaginings.
That's just me. I simply don't see any reason to go back to revolvers for defensive shooting. I wouldn't feel bad if a revolver is what I had, because as the late Stephen A. Camp said: "You're more likely to run out of time than ammunition". Stick with what you can shoot well.
When I started in law enforcement we only carried revolvers. While it is true they are considered quite reliable, on one occasion my cylinder seized up. The reason was the ejector rod had backed its way out just enough to lock up the gun. I'm just glad I was at the range when it happened so an armorer could repair it. Since 1988, I've carried a Glock. Most recently a G19. I am just as confident in that handgun as the J frames I also occasionally carry.
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How can you think of saying, 'Friend, let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,' when you can't see past the log in your own eye?
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Why don't you just come out and say it?
Revolvers were made by God and semi-autos were made by Satan
Details that originated this post.
In 1960 I carried .22 Magnum Hi-Standard Derringer in a " then
legal " wallet holster as backup to my exposed uniform duty gun.
Federal law outlawed the " WALLET HOLSTER " my next BUG was
a .32 Seecamp semi-auto in hip pocket of my uniform.
The .32 Seecamp was designed to shoot one particular cartridge
and that being the Winchester SILVERTIP Hollow point, everything worked
well, however, following the recent years of ammo shortage,
Winchester Silvertip cartridges have suffered changes directly
bearing on the performance of the Seecamp.
Many various bullets are being tried to solve the problem, however, prior to a recent sale of The Seecamp company a lot
of hand finishing went into each gun, therefore, the unreliability
issues varies from one gun to the next, I have some very old
Winchester Silvertips from the day's of YORE, but my confidence
in my Seecamp and many other semi-auto's has been shattered,
thus my statement the odds favor a revolver over a pistol.
In 1960 I carried .22 Magnum Hi-Standard Derringer in a " then
legal " wallet holster as backup to my exposed uniform duty gun.
Federal law outlawed the " WALLET HOLSTER " my next BUG was
a .32 Seecamp semi-auto in hip pocket of my uniform.
The .32 Seecamp was designed to shoot one particular cartridge
and that being the Winchester SILVERTIP Hollow point, everything worked
well, however, following the recent years of ammo shortage,
Winchester Silvertip cartridges have suffered changes directly
bearing on the performance of the Seecamp.
Many various bullets are being tried to solve the problem, however, prior to a recent sale of The Seecamp company a lot
of hand finishing went into each gun, therefore, the unreliability
issues varies from one gun to the next, I have some very old
Winchester Silvertips from the day's of YORE, but my confidence
in my Seecamp and many other semi-auto's has been shattered,
thus my statement the odds favor a revolver over a pistol.
Arik
Member
15 years ago I had a 12 year old Ford that gave me problem there for I lost confidence in all Fords.
(In 2000 I owned a 1988 Ford Bronco II). Based on that Bronco all current Fords have major transmission problems along with a host of other problems, like stuck excelerators.
So far in 5 or so years I've owned and carried my Glock 19 it has fed, fired and ejected everything that says 9x19. I haven't tried rocks yet but if I can load one I'm sure it will chamber and fire. Comparing bug guns from 30 + years ago to most guns made today is like comparing 30 year old technology to today's.
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bhayles
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I pull the trigger on my Glock 22 or my wife's Glock 23 and they both go BANG! every time. Thousands of rounds thru both without a single FTF or function issue are testament to that.
They are both ugly guns, they both HAD terrible triggers...and they are both utterly reliable guns that I would bet my...and my family's...life on.
They are both ugly guns, they both HAD terrible triggers...and they are both utterly reliable guns that I would bet my...and my family's...life on.
MOONDAWG
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Did you load them? Revolvers and semi-autos are notorious for not firing when they're empty.
A wise guy, eh?
. Yup, I loaded 'em. Didn't help. :-(
elm_creek_smith
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elm_creek_smith
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The issue semiauto where I work is a Glock 22. I don't do combat Tupperware®, so on duty I carry a 4 inch S&W Model 686. Off duty I carry a 3 inch S&W Model 13. (Yes, I'm the last of the wheelgunners in my office.) Life is too short to use ugly guns.
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There's no need to yell, you know. Typing in all caps doesn't get your point across any better, and on most Internet forums, it's considered really really rude. Some forums will even delete posts in all caps.
Rastoff
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91 posts on a controversial subject on an internet forum isn't proof of anything.
Relax my friend. You started this thread by basically calling anyone who carries a semi auto stupid. You have to expect some folks to have a different opinion. Don't let it get to you. Just enjoy the exchange.
What I get out of this is (among a few other insights into some of the posters who love saying nobody else can hit anything unless they play silly internet games and talk down to folks that doubt their stories)carry a backup.
Aticus
Member
I stand suitably chastised.
Thanks for the information, I did not realize it is construed as
rude, other then the Seecamp Forum I am a novice on the Internet.
I thought The caps might be kind to other Octogenarian's on the
Forum that have less the 20/20 vision.
Armed with your information I will not repeat my error,
also will limit my Forum time to reading not writing, I find
there is far too many opportunities to innocently stub your toe.
Billy
CelticSire
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"One last point: hot ammo, combined with a soft primer, can cause the primer to extrude into the hammer-nose hole in the frame, in which case the cylinder will stop rotating. The fix for this to activate the cylinder release, then whack the cylinder smartly on its right side to sheer off the extruded primer material."
Exactly. It has been mentioned several times in this thread that the immediate action drill for a revolver is "pull the trigger again". Not in an instance where the above happens. Happened to me less than a month ago. Qualification range shooting duty ammo. Apparently one of the primers in the factory, duty ammunition was soft and did just exactly what is described above. Locked the cylinder shut as if it had been welded. No amount of "pulling the trigger again" was going to clear said malfunction. ANY firearm can malfunction at ANY time for any number of reasons.
Exactly. It has been mentioned several times in this thread that the immediate action drill for a revolver is "pull the trigger again". Not in an instance where the above happens. Happened to me less than a month ago. Qualification range shooting duty ammo. Apparently one of the primers in the factory, duty ammunition was soft and did just exactly what is described above. Locked the cylinder shut as if it had been welded. No amount of "pulling the trigger again" was going to clear said malfunction. ANY firearm can malfunction at ANY time for any number of reasons.
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