Armed Contractor In Your Home

[American1776]

Baloney. Preach that 2A stuff to people on the street. Who I trust in my own home trumps that. Period.

If you want to let armed people in your home because of your belief in the 2A that's up to you. To open yourself to that liability is foolish in my opinion.

You can explain to your family and your insurance company why you did so.

You obviously didn't read or understand what I wrote in my last few posts; otherwise you wouldn't have replied in this way, like bringing up the 2nd A again, which I already made clear has nothing to do with the point I was making.

 

[Kanewpadle]

You obviously didn't read or understand what I wrote in my last few posts; otherwise you wouldn't have replied in this way, like bringing up the 2nd A again, which I already made clear has nothing to do with the point I was making.

I did read and understand. We disagree by a long way.

Nuff said about this.

 

[American1776]

I did read and understand. We disagree by a long way.

Nuff said about this.

We can respectfully agree to disagree.

 

[Smoke]

That may have just been her way of saying " mind your own business/I can take care of myself".

Beyond that I do not care to speculate about some random woman who might or might not take a gun along to do a job for some other guy I do not know.

You miss my point entirely.

Niether the woman nor the man who wanted a bartender are relevant as any more than examples.

The guy could have been looking for a plumber to come fix his hot tub. What the contractor is there to do is irrelevant.

Would you let the Orkin Man in your home armed?

Why or why not?

 

[Smoke]

I have a hard time with this question because I would never let some random
unknown person into my home especially not some one I contracted with on the Internet. The question of them being unarmed is secondary because they're not coming in my house anyway.

Now if I contracted with Orkin and they sent out a uniformed employee who happened to be armed I'd don't think I'd give it a second thought unless I had another reason to be uncomfortable

 

[kbm6893]

You miss my point entirely.

Niether the woman nor the man who wanted a bartender are relevant as any more than examples.

The guy could have been looking for a plumber to come fix his hot tub. What the contractor is there to do is irrelevant.

Would you let the Orkin Man in your home armed?

Why or why not?

No I would not. Leave the gun in the car while you spray for insects. I don't know you I don't trust you. And frankly, I've seen way too many obviously incompetent people with guns to trust them around my family.

 

[petepeterson]

I'm a home inspector. I go into different homes and meet new clients daily. I do NOT carry a firearm into peoples' homes. (if the situation is that bad, I cancel, and leave). My pistol stays locked in the truck. Seems like good manners to me.
The bartender is hired to mix and serve drinks, not provide security. If she gets bad vibes she should do what I do: leave.
And when a contractor/service person or anyone else who is not a personal, invited acquaintance comes to my home they leave their guns outside. Again, good manners.
Friends are another story; bring 'em if you got 'em.

This has always been my philosophy. I don't carry into other people's homes unless there's a previous understanding in place.
Not to stray from the OP, but, just like we discuss here about posted places, I supposed if I didn't know the bartender was armed, I wouldn't have an issue with it. I always see OC as a political or personal statement, not a more efficient way of carrying. But I digress...

 

[Arik]

I'm surprised this hasn't been locked.

If I'm not comfortable with you carrying a gun in my house why would I be comfortable with you carrying next to me on the bus, at a restaurant, at a convenience store, at the ball game, or any other place really.

 

[American1776]

Here are a few quotations from this thread, and I want to make a simple point of logic here:

1. 'I don't know you I don't trust you. And frankly, I've seen way too many obviously incompetent people with guns to trust them around my family.'

2. 'I'm all for the 2A. But in my home the 2A takes a backseat if I feel it necessary to protect myself and family. To let someone I don't know I my house with a gun is foolish if not stupid'.

3. 'So if some drunk gets obnoxious and grabby, she'll shoot him?'

4. 'She may be a fine person with an underdeveloped idea of time and place.'

5. 'she could be looking for a confrontation'


My point about logic is this: Take every one of these 'reasons' against allowing Americans to carry in your home, and import each one into the 'debate' regarding allowing carrying a gun ANYWHERE. If you're in a reflective mood, you'll see that these are the exact same reasons, word for word, that the Bloomburg and Brady Group ignoramuses use, in order to argue AGAINST any law that would allow any carry of firearms in any public place. They say the exact things, like, 'having a gun in your home is one thing, having it in public around my family is another thing!' These reasons against firearms are intellectually bankrupt.

And to the point that 'if it's concealed, i'm okay with it, if not, she's not I don't trust her': This is the definition of living in a fantasy world of the feelings of make believe.

There is NO genuine reason why a woman would be trustworthy to carry her gun around your family at the mall, or in the theater, but once she steps foot on your property, she suddenly becomes a persona non gratia with her firearm.

Listen to how people answer this very revealing question. It is revealing because it actually forces people to reveal their true inner beliefs about whether they really support the rights of other Americans to keep and carry arms, or whether what they really want is 'A gun for me, but none for thee'. The situation that has been raised now gives each one of us the power to decide whether we really would allow an armed American in a vicinity in which we can decide on the matter. And the answers are revealing here.

 

[OLDSTER]

An unknown armed person in my home ? You gotta be kidding. He/she would be outta my home before they could say "hello"

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I wouldn't expect a hired contractor to enter a strangers home unarmed anymore than I would expect a homeowner to disarm when the contractor enters the home.

Kanewpadle, haven't I read prior posts that you enter homes armed and your customers don't know?

Sounds like a lot of differing opinion that really doesn't mean anything in the real world unless the homeowner intends to mount a walk-through metal detector on the front door frame or pat down everyone.

 

[OLDSTER]

Question is "who here would let an unknown contractor into YOUR home armed". Implication is you would be home to "let" them in

 

[Comrad]

Alcohol and guns, probably not a good mix.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Question is "who here would let an unknown contractor into YOUR home armed"

I had two guys in my home last week installing a fireplace gas log, and a few months ago two guys came to install a new washer and dryer. Any or all might have been armed. What's the alternative, strip search them? If they meant me harm, it's not like they're going to disarm themselves on the honor system, right?

If I had a job where I worked in the homes of strangers I'd want to be armed too.

 

[Derosa]

This thread is a wonderful discourse on several Constitutional Rights' areas. And it displays the wonderful maturity and eloquence of the Forum members to identify, clarify, debate and rebuke in written form for all to see. Second Amendment rights are explored; personal & private rights are intertwined; and First Amendment rights of free speech are boldly offered. The rights of free speech also include what is not right to say. I call it the right to shut up. The moderators are to be commended for generating the atmosphere and vehicle that allows us to offer up such brief and condensed missiles and also for the members to present opinions with clarity. Wonderful. Thank you all.

 

[OLDSTER]

Armed contractor

I had two guys in my home last week installing a fireplace gas log, and a few months ago two guys came to install a new washer and dryer. Any or all might have been armed. What's the alternative, strip search them? If they meant me harm, it's not like they're going to disarm themselves on the honor system, right?

With all due respect to ChattanoogaPhil The question also implies that you would know the contractor is armed. If not then the question is moot

 

[gregintenn]

I'm not too worried about the pistol packing chick. The forty drunks in my home, however, would be a problem.

 

[BAM-BAM]

This example is not the best......................

You engage someone off of FB to be a bartender at a party to be held in your home "that night". You don't know that person, no backround check, not a licenced profession (AFAIK) in the state. Just a "person" who responds to an add. ( for all you know it's her way to go to a party, have a few drinks,go home with a client D) and get paid. Or maybe front on a home invasion w/ a few "friends"). Pretty stupid IMHO.

She shows up open carrying.You have no idea of her training/experience. But you now know she is carrying....... so you knowingly engaged her services her act as a bartender............ armed!

As the homeowner/party thrower I would not want my catering staff openly armed...... it not the impression I want to give at a party I'm throwing.

As the homeowner who has employed her you in all likelihood will have some or full legal liability for her actions..... both in the amount of alcohol she serves and what she does with the gun.

If she shoots someone who attacks her or a bystander; or serves someone to many drinks and they kill themselves or someone else on the way home.You as the homeowner/party thrower may be liable or at least face a civil suit.

None of which has anything to do with her right to carry IMHO..... here's the job here are my rules.

Orkin man ....... employee of another company, with ID,driving an Orkin truck...he's covered by Company policy.... CC I should never know, Open carry I'd call the company and confirm his ID and company policy...... then make the call based on my comfort level.

FYI: I tend to CC when I have "unknown" contractors in my home....................

 

[Bill Bates]

We really need a photo of the young woman in question to make an informed decision.

Many here depending on the photo may change their mind on hiring or not hiring this young lady to work a party depending on what she is packing.

 

[Muss Muggins]

This probably constitutes a bit of thread drift, but this thread has made me rejoice once again in the pleasures of living in a gun friendly town/region big enough to have most of the good restaurants and stores, but small enough that an "unknown" contractor is a very uncommon occurrence . . .