Building an arsenal.....

[iibgdi]

I think if you start buying multiples of the exact same gun, you will attract attention to yourself as being some sort terrorist, anarchist or sociopath. You certainly have the right to do it, but building a collection is lot more palatable, than building an arsenal. Take a breath.

How would be attracting attention to myself? I've bought from about 5 different FFL's and a few individuals.

Outside of a few friends that think similarly and immediate family, no one knows my plans.

(of course that doesn't include the thousands of you guys )

 

[Maddmax]

While I won't discourage you from getting a M&P 10, it really isn't needed for hunting. Deer and hog can be taken with a .223... I've done it.

If you are building an arsenal for TEOTWAWKI a bolt gun can be cheaper.

I would think quieter would be better. No need to scare off all the game animals and let everyone know for miles where you are when a bow & arrow would suffice. Not to mention the wasted/damaged meat from a bullet impact. Survival of the fittest goes beyond superior firepower.

 

[cyphertext]

I would think quieter would be better. No need to scare off all the game animals and let everyone know for miles where you are when a bow & arrow would suffice. Not to mention the wasted/damaged meat from a bullet impact. Survival of the fittest goes beyond superior firepower.

I'm not that good with a bow... maybe one of these things is the answer.

» Introducing The Benjamin Pioneer Airbow

 

[rtquig]

I think it depends on where you live if you believe you will be able to feed yourself by hunting. Every person that owns a gun will also be trying to feed their family. Game will quickly disappear.

 

[sgtsandman]

Back when the country was wanting people to push out into the frontier, they were giving parcels of land roughly about 100-120 acres in size. That is pretty much the minimum to support a family off the land. If you have a bunch of other people trying to live off the same land, yeah, food will get used up quickly.

 

[McE]

Back when the country was wanting people to push out into the frontier, they were giving parcels of land roughly about 100-120 acres in size. That is pretty much the minimum to support a family off the land. If you have a bunch of other people trying to live off the same land, yeah, food will get used up quickly.

Problem self corrects if you eat those people

 

[Maddmax]

I'm not that good with a bow... maybe one of these things is the answer.

» Introducing The Benjamin Pioneer Airbow

Then you need to start practicing. It's not that hard.

 

[Maddmax]

I think it depends on where you live if you believe you will be able to feed yourself by hunting. Every person that owns a gun will also be trying to feed their family. Game will quickly disappear.

Way out here in the Boondocks, "city" people fear those things that go bump in the night for good reason.

With the proper skills you can live comfortable. No skills, the elements will get you before the critters do.

 

[jagular]

I would think quieter would be better. No need to scare off all the game animals and let everyone know for miles where you are when a bow & arrow would suffice. Not to mention the wasted/damaged meat from a bullet impact. Survival of the fittest goes beyond superior firepower.

An "arsenal" may include the need for suppressors.

I can understand the OP's desire to outfit a small army should the need arise. I will say, however, without training on whatever rifles you are stocking will be ineffective. If you do start buying these rifles do not just simply put them away for a rainy day. Get your family/group together a couple times a year to train and shoot them. In this case, a few rifles might suffice as you stock up on ammo and magazines. You may easily use a case of Ammo for each "training" session. I wouldn't go less than 3 magazines (ideally 6) for each rifle.

 

[rtquig]

Way out here in the Boondocks, "city" people fear those things that go bump in the night for good reason.

With the proper skills you can live comfortable. No skills, the elements will get you before the critters do.

Don't underestimate the number of "City People" that hunt. It is more than what you would think. I live in the burbs where most guys in my neighborhood hunt with gun and bow. Ocean fishing is also very big here. But once the game and fish run out, people will expand into the wilderness to hunt.

 

[uncledoggle]

Come on now. Ya can't call it an "Arsenal" unless it contains a few items that are belt fed.

 

[TheMaineEvent]

People buy all sorts of guns but don't have hardly enough ammo stockpiled. In that case you are better off buying heavy guns to use as hammers to hit intruders with.
It isn't hard to drop a couple grand on just ammo alone.

Oh, the days when I only had a couple grand's worth of ammo. How my bank account misses those days.

 

[Maddmax]

Don't underestimate the number of "City People" that hunt. It is more than what you would think. I live in the burbs where most guys in my neighborhood hunt with gun and bow. Ocean fishing is also very big here. But once the game and fish run out, people will expand into the wilderness to hunt.

No worries. I didn't get this old underestimating people. I know tons of hunters. The other thing people are forgetting. If your "normal" hunting area is a hour-couple hour drive away... You can drive farther in an hour than you can walk in a day. Not including needed "gear" to survive the trip. It's a BIG wilderness out there. How much energy are you willing to expend searching for something that probably won't be there (or already taken), IF you can even find it ??? Then you have to get it back to your group. I'm not even going to mention competition from other not so friendly groups that already have the area staked out.

Look what a squad or small platoon stuffs on their back for gear and takes off on foot for a medium range mission. Most people couldn't carry a bag of cat litter across the street.

 

[McE]

I'm not that good with a bow... maybe one of these things is the answer.

» Introducing The Benjamin Pioneer Airbow

Refilling stations already are few and far between. 8 Shots before needing a fill, I think it said.

And with an MSRP about the same as the new Serbu 50bmg . . . . hmmmmm

 

[rtquig]

No worries. I didn't get this old underestimating people. I know tons of hunters. The other thing people are forgetting. If your "normal" hunting area is a hour-couple hour drive away... You can drive farther in an hour than you can walk in a day. Not including needed "gear" to survive the trip. It's a BIG wilderness out there. How much energy are you willing to expend searching for something that probably won't be there (or already taken), IF you can even find it ??? Then you have to get it back to your group. I'm not even going to mention competition from other not so friendly groups that already have the area staked out.

Look what a squad or small platoon stuffs on their back for gear and takes off on foot for a medium range mission. Most people couldn't carry a bag of cat litter across the street.

I'd have to agree with you on that. My brother-in-law is an exception, he will go to Alaska and rough it for a month at a time. The time he is home, he is working 7/12's with his own company to be able to take the time off. I can hunt across the street from my house, but the game will quickly be gone. 1 mile to my west is a million acre reserve loaded with deer and a few bear. It is said that there are more deer in our state now as compared to when the settlers came. Much more manicured lawns and plants for them to eat. Lately the coyote have been culling the herds.

 

[cyphertext]

Refilling stations already are few and far between. 8 Shots before needing a fill, I think it said.

And with an MSRP about the same as the new Serbu 50bmg . . . . hmmmmm

Yes, depending on what the end of days scenario is, I could have trouble filling the thing... but it looks like a fun toy.

 

[iibgdi]

My collection/arsenal just gained a new one!!

Just won a raffle...kind of....a friend won and wanted the cash option so I gave them the cash and I get the rifle. So for $475 I get a Remington 700 CDL SF 300 Win Mag.

Thought that was way too good of a deal to pass up.

 

[Maddmax]

Yes, depending on what the end of days scenario is, I could have trouble filling the thing... but it looks like a fun toy.

You need to get a bicycle tire pump...

 

[Tbat]

I think if you start buying multiples of the exact same gun, you will attract attention to yourself as being some sort terrorist, anarchist or sociopath. You certainly have the right to do it, but building a collection is lot more palatable, than building an arsenal. Take a breath.

You would actually be suprised how little attention it does attract in some areas.

Additionally, if all your guns/rifles look alike you won't be in trouble from your spouse as she won't realize how many you have bought, unless she sees them all together at the same time.

 

[Muss Muggins]

I'd have to agree with you on that. My brother-in-law is an exception, he will go to Alaska and rough it for a month at a time. The time he is home, he is working 7/12's with his own company to be able to take the time off. I can hunt across the street from my house, but the game will quickly be gone. 1 mile to my west is a million acre reserve loaded with deer and a few bear. It is said that there are more deer in our state now as compared to when the settlers came. Much more manicured lawns and plants for them to eat. Lately the coyote have been culling the herds.

New Jersey has a wildlife reserve that comprises about 1/5 of the entire state?

Edit: Never mind. I found my own answer. You don't exactly have a traditional reserve. Taken from National Park Service website.

It's classified as a United States Biosphere Reserve and in 1978 was established by Congress as the country's first National Reserve. It includes portions of seven southern New Jersey counties, and encompasses over one-million acres of farms, forests and wetlands. It contains 56 communities, from hamlets to suburbs, with over 700,000 permanent residents.