Oh my goodness. Look at the forcing cone on my 627 PC

[Dr. Marneaus]

Okay. I've had it.

I wondered why the barrel was so leaded when it came back from repairs at smith and wesson. I cleaned out the leading, and saw this. it looks like the forcing cone was cut with the worlds dullest tool. Look at the edges of the rifling lands.

Dont mind the excessive lead at the very start of the forcing cone.

Untitled by Andrew M, on Flickr

Untitled by Andrew M, on Flickr

Untitled by Andrew M, on Flickr

Now, this is looking down the barrel. See those little bitty black specs and lines at the edges of the lands that go into the area of the groves?? Those are all high points.
Untitled by Andrew M, on Flickr


oh my god. i'm so over this gun.

 

[gaspipes]

That is unacceptable on any gun, let alone one that costs $1000 or more. Send it back....again.....

 

[Mr.Harry]

Demand an entirely new gun that has been closely inspected by a senior manager.

 

[daddio202]

O.M.G.! I feel horrible for you! I second the notion of an entirely new gun that has been first inspected by somebody that knows what the heck they are doing around firearms.

 

[sdb321]

If it wasn't for BAD LUCK you wouldn't have any luck at all !!!!!!!

 

[comiskeybum]

I agree, get on the phone and demand a swap with a brand new gun that is inspected by leadership.

I know for a fact this is doable as my neighbor went though a debacle last year with his shield and they finally shipped him a new one with extra mags for his trouble.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Dude. Sell it, buy a Taurus, and call it a day. . .

 

[comiskeybum]

LOL cuz Taurus never has issues. Please....

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[OU 812]

I am no expert but........Have you been shooting lead bullets.

Looks like you were unable to clean it out.

Could you take a o ring pick and remove the material on the lands. To tell if it is steel or lead?

 

[daddio202]

Smith & Wesson repair center had fired those bullets!!

 

[Tyrod]

Ford Taurus make a fine blunt force weapon.

 

[Dr. Marneaus]

I am no expert but........Have you been shooting lead bullets.

Looks like you were unable to clean it out.

Could you take a o ring pick and remove the material on the lands. To tell if it is steel or lead?

Smith & Wesson repair center had fired those bullets!!

Daddio is right. I have never fired a single round through this gun.

When it came back from repair the first inch of the barrel was heavily leaded. I cleaned out the lead and that's what I saw.

I'm pretty positive that's not lead on the lands, as Ive had a bit of experience cleaning leaded bores.

It looks like they cut the rifling then cut the forcing cone and it pushed all that extra metal out of the way but didn't remove it.

Insanity.

I'm gonna call them when I get back from this camping trip. I headed to the hills for the weekend so I don't go crazy on anybody because of this gun haha.

 

[Sol-Invictus]

Looks like lead. My 66 came back looking similar, elbow grease and copper weave, looks great now.

 

[Ashlander]

LOL cuz Taurus never has issues. Please....

I have a ton of S&W revolvers so don't get me wrong (I think they are great guns), but buy or check out a new Taurus revolver (or even a new Rossi made by Taurus). Take them apart if you wish. The fit and finish is excellent. I think perhaps their manufacturing may be better state of the art than S&W as of now with regard to revolvers.

Will some of them have problems? Yeah, and they have a warranty.

I shoot my S&Ws at the range but for home defense (to get to my shotgun) I have a 7 shot 2" Taurus 617 in .357, a steel 5 shot Model 85 in .38 Special and an old Ruger Speed Six. I trust them and actually like their triggers better than my Smiths. For carry I have a new Kimber K6s which is a huge improvement over a J-frame (and 6 shots besides) at the same weight as a S&W 640.

 

[Watchdog]

I wondered why the barrel was so leaded when it came back from repairs at smith and wesson.

Daddio is right. I have never fired a single round through this gun.

Well, I have to ask.

If you'd never fired the gun, why did you send it back for repairs? What was wrong with it to begin with?

 

[BLUEDOT37]

It looks like they cut the rifling then cut the forcing cone and it pushed all that extra metal out of the way but didn't remove it.

That's not a good looking FC. A good FC cutter wouldn't have "pushed" anything, just turned it into little metal chips.

I don't know why S&W has been so sporadic on FC quality, it's not rocket science. I bought my own tools to fix mine, which of course I shouldn't have to, but I like doing things myself, when I can. I'm often less disappointed afterward.

Too bad you didn't notice it before you sent it back the first time. Definitely call them & get another shipping label. Look it over real good this time & add a list with the pistol of anything else you see wrong.

Keep us updated.

.

 

[muddocktor]

Well, I have to ask.

If you'd never fired the gun, why did you send it back for repairs? What was wrong with it to begin with?

If you look around in this forum, you will see a few other threads the doctor has going on about this gun. He had quite a few QC issues with his $1000 PC gun to start with and it was sent back for fixes and that is what they sent back to him. Some things fixed and others still lacking.

EDIT: Here is a link to his original thread. <<<LINK>>>

 

[amazingflapjack]

Doc-buy and old one in nice condition.

 

[Dr. Marneaus]

Well, I have to ask.

If you'd never fired the gun, why did you send it back for repairs? What was wrong with it to begin with?

Because the hammer had a ton of flashing on the edges and was Razor sharp.

Because the crown protruded out past the muzzle

Because the grips didn't fit At all

Because there were apparent machine marks in the top strap.

Because the front sight was clearly canted to the right and pushed to the left to compensate.

There are a lot of things that can be wrong that don't jvokve accuracy or function. I didn't have to shoot it to realize it was finished very poorly. Unfortunately I didn't see the issue at the forcing cone until after I got it back

 

[Dr. Marneaus]

Looks like lead. My 66 came back looking similar, elbow grease and copper weave, looks great now.

There is lead at the very leading edge of the forcing cone but it looks like steel to me. I used a big45 pad to remove the lead in the lands of the rifling and this is what was left behind