Anyone have an issue with this?

Rastoff said:
Indeed. I don't even know if the story is true or fabricated. Still, it's a good discussion.

You missed this part, " (I) Persons possessing a handgun, who are authorized to carry the handgun pursuant to § 39-17-1351..." So, if he has a license then it's legal for him to carry in a recreational park.

However, the law is long and convoluted and is never that simple. There are many "pursuant to (insert paragraph number or letter or another code)" phrases in that law. There are lots of ways for a community to make what he did illegal. But, as you say, we don't know all the information relative to this action.
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Carry yes, brandish, no. Certainly one could argue he was brandishing if making presentations from the holster when the gun is supposed to be concealed. Seriously, how can anyone be this stupid?
 
Ignorance can be cured through education; hopefully, this father will subject himself to the educational process and learn from this foolish act. However, stupidity is bone deep and unrecoverable.

Prayerfully, this person is just under educated about the proper handling of firearms and does not suffer from abject stupidity.
 
Another Fool who shouldn't own a firearm... Banishment of a firearm would be a issue here in NC. Drawing a weapon in a populated common area not designated for shooting loaded or not will land you in jail...Stupid Fool.
 
"A man here in Knoxville went to his son's soccer game. The soccer field was adjacent to a wooded public park. The man was bored so he went to the edge of the woods and decided to practice his draw and dry firing to improve his trigger control."

1. The guy has serious adult ADHD issues. This is not normal.
2. I'm in a place where no one thinks twice of someone having a firearm, being in public with one, etc. Police don't even get excited if you don't act stupid. This would result in him being talked to around here.
3. Completely inappropriate. Other than the range, your house, a training session, or another controlled environment - a stupid move. He has no way of knowing if where his gun is pointed is clear. A firearm should stay in it's holster in a public setting, unless there is a need to present it.
 
Drawing your firearm in public w/o justifiable cause will end up with someone getting in trouble. His decision was dumb, his action unnecessary.

There's a couple of charges here in OK but that would have been a very poor arrest. The case would have been dismissed most likely in my opinion. If the guy's got no criminal background give him a talk, set him straight and move on. Now, if that gun would have been discharged we'd have a different conversation...
 
The Big D said:
...with 'dry firing.' Given there is no recoil, what is the purpose? (Please, if I am wrong, educate me.)

Similarly, I cannot understand the obsession that some seem to have with 'quick draw.' Please note I now have more than forty three (43) years of handgun toting experience...30.5 years as a LEO...and now 13 years or so as an armed citizen.

I have had more experiences with 'use' of a handgun than most people...NEVER has it required a quick draw scenario. Most times my gun simply materialized itself in my hand. A conscious thought action was not evident. (Hope this is understood...may not have expressed it properly.)

Be safe.
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IMo, if you have to ask then you really have no idea. Best shooters in the world dry fire as much or more than they live fire. So 30K rds a year live, same dry, you reach that top 5% of all shooters.
When one talks about rapid presentation it is 1st shot hit times. Yes it can certainly matter faced with a close contact attack. 1sec to rounds on your attacker would be preferred to 3sec.
 
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nachogrande said:
It was completely accidental that he had a big audience, when a few feet further into the woods nobody would have seen him. :rolleyes: Aside from being just plain dumb. Was the gun loaded?
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Negligent, no accident in this even at all.
 
News Headlines "Man wielding gun at kids soccer game". I see plenty wrong with this idiot. Just a waste of air and water.
 
This is one of those situations that reminds me of something I teach my daughter...
"Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it "

Lots of things in life fall under that quote and it seems to me this is one of those times.
 
I don't know why anyone is surprised. It seams as though more and more people can't even walk down the road, drive a car, have a face to face conversation, or sit for more than 33.2 sec. with out being entertained by their phone, table, watch.................................
 
fatcat3 said:
I don't know why anyone is surprised. It seams as though more and more people can't even walk down the road, drive a car, have a face to face conversation, or sit for more than 33.2 sec. with out being entertained by their phone, table, watch.................................
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While I do not disagree. Nopt really the issue here imo. Lack of trainng & common sense at play, not just boredom. If you lack common sense & decent judgement, ya probably should leave the gat at home.
 
Muss Muggins said:
I must respectfully disagree. Drunk drivers don't make responsible drinkers or responsible drivers look bad. Abusers of illegal controlled substances don't make legal users of prescription drugs look bad. Nothing this nice fella' did impacts me in any way . . .
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when your state turns more blue because people like this cause gun owners to be viewed as a liability maybe you will agree this guy does not deserve to own a gun due to his poor judgement in the eyes of most the public
 
Being he was very close to a sporting event and displaying antics with a gun it wouldn't surprise me someone yelled he has a gun. I agree the guy probably wanted to be a grandstander so to speak.

Try that here in Texas and you might end up in jail or lose your LTC. It is illegal to carry a firearm at a sporting event and definitely not on or even near school property. My guess is he had bullets in his pocket for the gun.
I am more surprised he wasn't arrested.
 
diyj98 said:
Stupid on his part and in some locals he could have been charged with brandishing. He may have beat the charge, but why stir up the problem to begin with.

EDIT: Grayfox beat me too it!
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Is his behavior the problem or is the public's reaction to his behavior the problem? In regards to open carry, I think it ought to be an ordinary, reasonable and protected right. The fact that it is viewed as "abnormal" is because it is a right that most people don't exercise and "the public" sees it as abnormal or illegal. To counter this misguided understanding, one needs to exercise the right more often and educate others around us. We have allowed our rights to be limited by the public's reaction, or self-limit the exercise of our second amendment rights because of our fear of the public reation. Their reaction is often based on fear, misinformation and ignorance; three things that should never limit a sacred right. Perhaps the perpetrator was ill advised in his conduct, but the bigger problem here is the legitimization of irrational fear by the public. It is a fear that can be overcome by educating others and by exercising that right. Use it or lose it!
 
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otis24 said:
Is his behavior the problem or is the public's reaction to his behavior the problem?
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An excellent question.

otis24 said:
In regards to open carry, I think it ought to be an ordinary, reasonable and protected right. The fact that it is viewed as "abnormal" is because it is a right that most people don't exercise and "the public" sees it as abnormal or illegal.
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The fact that most people don't do it is the very definition of abnormal. But just because something isn't the norm doesn't mean it's bad.
 
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