It's 2021: Let's park those EDC revolvers and get serious

Status
Not open for further replies.
Now y'all, I am not talking about the OP of course, because I'd NEVER disparage another forum member, but topics that start like a Hollywood action movie just draw out the funny in me and I can't stand keeping it to myself.
So here's a thought that came into my mind a few minutes ago -
"Back at my former employer, a reasonably-large police department at the doorstep to the Rockies, where there is plenty of "action" for those who crave it and plenty of safe, sedate jobs for the folks who don't (like detectives :cool: ,) there's a name for an applicant who sees himself as the second coming of John Wick.....
"reject." :D "

And thank you for all the "likes" on my prior comment. Y'all are good folks. ;)
 
..."Entirely plausible scenario: What if you're broke down on a two lane road, changing a tire, and a car pulls up past you and stops. Three guys get out; two are carrying Glocks, one has a shotgun.
Poster a bit above says his car gun is a revolver. Against the gang, you're basically unarmed--you have to decide if your gun is a help or a liability.
Not me. In that scenario, I have a Sub 2000 with a couple of thirties to supplement my G17. I can jump into a ditch, take up a defensive position, and "defeat" the gang via superior firepower"...

That sounds like nothing so much as a hoplophobe's fantasy representation of how we think....
 
Last edited:
Enough! In reality the chances of any one of us non law enforcement needing a firearm to defend ourselves is probably much lower than getting killed in an auto accident or being hit by lightning. A handgun- any handgun is a poor choice for self defense but better than nothing. One should carry what one has shot enough to be as close to instinctive as possible because instinct and muscle memory is about all you will have to rely on if the stuff hits the fan. None of us shoot enough save SWAT and the military. The object of self-defense is to survive the encounter. The old masters like Bill Jordan knew that the person who could draw and fire first and place powerful rounds on target where they needed to be had the best chance of survival. Our world is not Hollywood, a single individual facing multiple opponents is not likely to survive. Most civilian encounters are decided within 2-3 rounds. How about we stop the BS and agree that we have the right to carry whatever we want and can shoot well and let it go at that? (I carry a S&W 4" 57 that I have owned and shot for many years)
 
Yep, OP seems to be MIA. What did he expect talking trash like that on a board full of revolver lovers?
Hey Univibe! Come on back, I'd love to hear your reply to the storm you started. :D
 
Even I profess to have learned something in my almost sixty-eight years on this terrestrial ball . . . it is generally folly to engage someone speaking about politics, religion, or any other endeavor where the originating conversationalist seems to be for sure for certain without-a-doubt beyond-any-question that he has received enlightenment on the subject and all associated problems could be easily overcome if the rest of the unwashed masses would simply subscribe to and recognize his all-knowing genius in such matters . . . notwithstanding some proffered observations from others who have speculated about grenade chuckers (or as one esteemed barrister put it "deuce droppers") lighting a fuse and then retiring to safer distances . . . :D
but then, whadda I know ? :rolleyes: __________________
 
Even I profess to have learned something in my almost sixty-eight years on this terrestrial ball . . . it is generally folly to engage someone speaking about politics, religion, or any other endeavor where the originating conversationalist seems to be for sure for certain without-a-doubt beyond-any-question that he has received enlightenment on the subject and all associated problems could be easily overcome if the rest of the unwashed masses would simply subscribe to and recognize his all-knowing genius in such matters . . . notwithstanding some proffered observations from others who have speculated about grenade chuckers (or as one esteemed barrister put it "deuce droppers") lighting a fuse and then retiring to safer distances . . . :D
but then, whadda I know ? :rolleyes: __________________

What is a "deuce dropper"? I'm way behind on today's lingo...
 
The OP stated, "Let's park those EDC revolvers and get serious"............

Well, that is the problem I had when reading his post. It is totally obvious that he could not be "serious" which the blatant flaws in his post. If it was based on sound logic and reasoning, then maybe I would consider his point of view. But, when it is filled with mere fallacious thinking then I just have to chuckle. Regarding his 7 points:

1. Any gun can jam (revolver or semi-auto pistol) - so what is your point?
2. A revolver will run out of ammo in "seconds" - you are legally liable for every round that you fire for self-defense. Spray and pray is a bad tactic for EDC. Moreover, if it takes you three seconds to reload your Glock 17, then you definitely need a lot more practice.
3. If you need to reload in a "short-range" shootout, then you need to visit your local gun range much more regularly. If you can't hit at "short-range" with your Glock 17, then higher capacity vs lower capacity is NOT your problem.
4. You posted in your title about "EDC" - drop any handgun (revolver or semi-automatic pistol) during a gunfight and your chances of surviving the encounter go down drastically.
5. I had to laugh when you mentioned "durability" - both a S&W 686 and a Glock 17 have more than enough "durability" to fire 6 or 7 rounds in self-defense without breaking. Again, you posted about EDC and self-defense; not torture testing.
6. "Cost" - you can't be "serious"? First of all, cost should never be considered a liability if you are selecting a tool to protect your life, and it is a tool that you prefer because you shoot it the best. Additionally, .22LR ammo is much cheaper than 9mm ammo. But, is cost going to be the factor that you use to decide on which caliber to pick for self-defense? .22LR ammo is available in both revolvers and semi-automatic pistols, but cost is a very low priority on the list when choosing the correct self-defense caliber for people. And as others have stated, if one carries a handgun everyday where there is the threat of say bears (and not just criminals), good luck to you with your Glock 17. A S&W model 629 would be a much better choice.
7. This is where I really knew that you couldn't be "serious" even though you urged all the readers to "get serious". If one is jumped by a group of thugs as you gave some examples of, and they surround you and they are armed with S&W double-action revolvers, and you have your Glock 17, looks like you are going to lose. What? You mean those thugs with their antiquated wheel-guns would beat you with your so-called "superior" Glock 17 weapon? Lol..........

Regarding the OP's last sentence in his post, he speaks of "military use". I see how confused he is because he stated in his post's title about EDC for all the readers (who the vast majority are carrying as civilians). Geesh!

Lastly, since point number seven shows that revolvers can beat semi-automatic pistols when in the hands of a group of thugs, I believe the OP really made the wrong argument. It is NOT revolver vs semi-automatic pistol. It really is one armed person vs several armed persons.

To the OP: You should really stop worrying about carrying a revolver vs a semi-automatic pistol for EDC. But, you should start going out in public places with a group of armed friends vs going out alone. That way you can feel more protected against a group of revolver carrying thugs who may easily kill you in a gun fight with their "inferior" weapons.....
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top