Electric vehicles...

There is little doubt that electric cars are not road trip ready yet. However, I think those of you that live in the countryside might be surprised/appalled at the percentage of the US population that now lives in a urban/suburban environment. For those people, 95% or more of their travel needs are covered just fine with an electric vehicle they charge twice a week.

No doubt what you say is true and I am fully aware that most of this country's population lives in an urban environment. I don't care. I care about what I need in my environment, and I care about what works for me and my family under the circumstances in which I operate. And electric cars don't cut it and won't in the foreseeable future. Here's what a road trip in an EV in my environment looks like right now. I don't think I need to say any more.
Wyoming EV Road Trip Hell: Cheyenne to Casper In 15 Hours | Cowboy State Daily
 
There is little doubt that electric cars are not road trip ready yet. However, I think those of you that live in the countryside might be surprised/appalled at the percentage of the US population that now lives in a urban/suburban environment. For those people, 95% or more of their travel needs are covered just fine with an electric vehicle they charge twice a week.

But who buys a car based on what they do most often? That car has to be able to handle ALL contingencies. Many people drive a short amount to work daily, but take a long trip at least once a year.

Then what? That's why electrics have such paltry market penetration. You need a second car!
 
Every new thing in due time. We can't be forced into something unproven.
When the automobile was invented did they not allow horses any more.
No-they let it takes its course until all people were ready for an auto. They could have banned hay and forced you into buying a car you couldn't afford, but they didn't and it worked out.

That's true but there's a huuuuuuuuge difference.

The gas powered automobile was so much better than the horse that even a child knew it was the future.

The EV is WORSE than the gas powered car in 2022. Big sticking point. :D
 
Then I guess my daughter and SIL's experience with their 2017 Leaf commuter is only in their imagination?

I don't own an EV but can learn from the experience (not speculation) of others. What do EV owners on this Forum have for informative, specific experience?
 
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Then I guess my daughter and SIL's experience with their 2017 Leaf commuter is only in their imagination?

I don't own an EV but can learn from the experience (not speculation) of others. What do EV owners on this Forum have for informative, specific experience?

this is anecdotal.

The VAST majority of car buyers reject electric cars. There's a reason for that.
 
this is anecdotal.

You're inaccurate; their experience is not rigorous nor scientific (my daughter is in fact a long-term ag scientist), but is instead derived from their 3 or 4 years of daily experience with that specific vehicle, charging system, and power provider. Accurately, it's experiential.
 
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Okay, now I can speak from experience.
Getting meniscus surgery on my knee in a few days, and pedestrian mobility around here was getting increasingly painful, so I rented a personal EV for a few days.
Well, the verdict is in, and I love it. Great torque and speed.

And my granddaughter loves it also.
Some limitations though.
Low ground clearance, so grandson had to shoosh away iguanas for me.
Also, sensitive to water, so couldn't drive up to the bar.
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Okay, now I can speak from experience.
Getting meniscus surgery on my knee in a few days, and pedestrian mobility around here was getting increasingly painful, so I rented a personal EV for a few days.
Well, the verdict is in, and I love it. Great torque and speed.

And my granddaughter loves it also.
Some limitations though.
Low ground clearance, so grandson had to shoosh away iguanas for me.
Also, sensitive to water, so couldn't drive up to the bar.
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Yes, this is exactly what electric is good for. Vehicles like this. Golf carts or smaller.
 
Except for the few million EV cars and Ford pickups in daily use for the past several years.

95% of car buyers reject them because they aren't good for serious things like long drives, towing, extreme cold or hot, plowing or construction, etc.

They are better as very light duty vehicles or golf carts/scooters.
 
But who buys a car based on what they do most often? That car has to be able to handle ALL contingencies. Many people drive a short amount to work daily, but take a long trip at least once a year.

Then what? That's why electrics have such paltry market penetration. You need a second car!

Not necessarily. Pre-COVID I knew folks here who were seriously considering an electric car and said they would rent a gas vehicle for their few road trips as and when. All other trips involved the electric car going to the airport. :D Of course, this was before renting a car cost a kidney and your first-born.:eek:
 
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