Poor Service and Business Practices...

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The Mrs has a 2018 AWD Ford Explorer XLT with a 300HP 6 cylinder engine, which is no longer available. I don't want a turbo... It only has 37K miles on it and the charging system went out the other day. I'm glad we buy extended warranties. I opened the hood and can't even see the alternator or belts.

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I've made multiple calls to the dealership service department on Saturday while they were open and no one would answer the phone. I also left several messages - Chirp, chirp, chirp... They were closed Sunday and Monday (Labor day).

I was on hold for almost an hour total this morning and it took 6 calls for them to finally answer the phone. I had the vehicle towed in per their instructions before 9am and waited for a response. About 11am, I called the service tech again. He said it would take several days, so I asked for a loaner car per the warranty terms. I was told they didn't have one available.

At 2pm, I called again and asked about the progress. I was told it hadn't been diagnosed yet. I pushed the issue and asked if anyone had actually looked at it or is expected to look at it today. "No..."

I insisted on a loaner and was finally told they had a loaner available. We went up and they gave the Mrs this tiny Bronco Sport.

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What a tin can piece of garbage. It has plenty of headroom, but is incredibly cramped. Nice interior and sound system, but it has a lot of road noise, a 1.7L turbo engine rated at 185hp and would cost about $40K out the door.

We've bought 8 new vehicle from this dealership in the past 25 years: A Taurus SHO, an Eddie Bauer Expedition, a Flex, an Edge Sport, 3 F-150's and the Explorer. I just bought a new F-150 this month and we were considering getting the Mrs a new vehicle, but they totally blew it. Our salesman has been excellent, but the rest of the dealership is now pathetic.

In the past, they offered excellent service and we were given loaner vehicle that we were likely to buy and we sometimes did. We wouldn't own a Bronco Sport and I doubt we'll buy another vehicle from them.

Sorry for the long rant, but I'm totally disgusted. I guess they don't value our money.
 

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It's a dealership, and it's a holiday weekend. The service dept was probably running a minimal skeleton crew on Saturday. The Tuesday after the holiday EVERYBODY is calling and wanting work done yesterday! They probably won't get to your vehicle till the end of the week. That's just the way it is. Then they might not have parts in stock for your vehicle...

They probably didn't have a loner when you called. One probably came available when you called later or someone my have given up their demo. Who knows..

BTDT and I used to work at a number of dealerships in the 90s - I see nothing has changed!
 
I've been to my dealership on a few days when it was absolutely jammed, customers nearly hanging from rafters. Other times almost a ghost garage. No real rhyme or reason as to which days and which hours that this occurs as far as I could tell.

But usually not jammed nor totally not busy. It's a Toyota dealership and have two regular service personnel that take care of me. When I need service, I call and they tell me how things are going.
 
I'm 6'5" and close to 300 lbs, which is about average (for an NFL lineman)! ;) :p

RUNT!!
I am two meters tall,, (That is 6'7" in "American" dimensions,, ) but, you got me weight wise,,
I have been 300,, but, COVID stopped my "going out to dinner" habit,,
I am down to 240,,

Still,, I do not fit,, in most cars,,
so, I drive a ,,,

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The most important factor when buying a vehicle IMHO, isn't necessarily the price but the service department's reputation. You spend an hour or two with the salesperson but the rest of the vehicle's life with the service department. On two occasions, I went into a dealer's showroom and told the salesperson point blank I would never buy another vehicle from the dealership they were working at. In one case, the lady asked me why and I told her. She apologized but I told her I wasn't blaming her but I was telling her why she wouldn't see me again. Around 6 months later, she called me up and asked if I was still having problems with the truck and I said I was. She told me she had started working at a different dealer and suggested I bring the truck to them. I appeared there with my laundry list of issues and the service rep said "This might take a couple of days." Take a week." was my reply, "I just want it fixed and fixed right. Four days later, the truck was returned with everything fixed correctly and I have been buying vehicles from them ever since, along with recommending them to my friends.

In full disclosure, it's not like I've never had an issue with this dealer's service department, but when I have, they have always addressed the issue to make it right, and on one occasion, gave me a $300 voucher to use however I wished. Other dealers could use a lesson from this one.
 
I don't care what the dealership service dept is like when I buy a new vehicle, I go for the lowest price. For 3 years and 36,000 miles most brands are under warranty, Hyundai and Kia are 5 years 100,000 miles. Whatever brand you buy you can take your vehicle to any dealer of that brand in America and get free warranty work. If I need warranty work done I call some local dealers to see who can fix it the quickest and who acts courteous and professional.
 
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Patience may be your friend here.

Let's review:
1. Labor Day Weekend, so no surprise they are swamped with work the following week.
2. They have indeed taken the vehicle in. Now it's in the queue. Everybody wants theirs done today so dealer may be flustered and harassed.
3. Your wife does indeed have a loaner. Unless I couldn't drive it from point A to point B, I would just use it. Maybe you could ask for something more suitable in a day or two.

Easy for me to say I know, but take a deep breath and see how it goes the next few days. Good luck.
 
I don't see why various forum members have to disparage a person's choice of car. ...

In the automotive world, people rib each other about their cars all the time. I think everything posted here is good natured. But we should be aware the OP is under some stress so go easy.

Every car company has received some jokes / jabs at one time or another. One of my favorites is

FIAT: Fix It Again Tony!

This little song fragment came from the old Click and Clack show:

I own a Renault, the manual's in French
I carry screwdrivers, I carry a wrench.
Won't run when it's wet, stalls when it's dry
The damn thing blew up the fourteenth of July.

My apologies to any FIAT or Renault owners!
 
In the automotive world, people rib each other about their cars all the time. I think everything posted here is good natured. But we should be aware the OP is under some stress so go easy.

Every car company has received some jokes / jabs at one time or another. One of my favorites is

FIAT: Fix It Again Tony!

This little song fragment came from the old Click and Clack show:

I own a Renault, the manual's in French
I carry screwdrivers, I carry a wrench.
Won't run when it's wet, stalls when it's dry
The damn thing blew up the fourteenth of July.

My apologies to any FIAT or Renault owners!

The bolded above quite true!

I have been a gearhead since I was 12-13 YO and car jokes were always being flung around.
 
Why the british drink warm beer.

Why do the British drink warm beer?
Because Lucas electronics makes their refrigerators!

Lucas AKA Prince of Darkness

Lucas 3-position headlight switch: dim, flicker, and off.


Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices.
Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.

Bekeart

Former Triumph motorcycle owner.
 

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