Sistema1927
US Veteran
Nadine Milford is turning over in her grave. IYKYK.
A Crook is a Crook
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Remembering Nadine Milford, the woman who made roads safer
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tYxGl_xGr8[/ame]
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No one commits crimes expecting to get caught.
LVSteve
Member
To them, it's your fault for catching them, not theirs for doing wrong. Criminal mindset 1.0.1
BCSO Undersheriff resigns amid DWI scandal
Updated: 12:41 PM MST Feb 24, 2025
Nick Catlin
Digital Editor
Undersheriff resigns in Bernalillo County amid DWI scandal
"... Jareno started working for BCSO in March 2009. He served in the DWI unit from December 2011 to October 2019, according to Allen.. ..."
Updated: 12:41 PM MST Feb 24, 2025
Nick Catlin
Digital Editor
Undersheriff resigns in Bernalillo County amid DWI scandal
"... Jareno started working for BCSO in March 2009. He served in the DWI unit from December 2011 to October 2019, according to Allen.. ..."
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To grossly understate it, this has been/is astounding. The magnitude and duration of it defy logic - at least mine. I will have a somewhat morbid interest in the (obvious) further developments in this as they emerge. Morbid because it is like watching an impending train wreck and one can't look away. But counter balanced by the suspicion such a scandal inevitably puts the rest of us under. Some of the comments here strongly infer that state of mind but staying on safe enough ground so as not to attract moderator attention.
I can read between the lines. As much as I resent such inferences, I have no grounds to object. The facts are there; anyone who wore or wears a badge will be under suspicion for what we may have done that has never come to light.
So, bad for law enforcement, whoever we are, wherever we are, whenever we were/are.
My 30+ year career, and the LE community where I worked, were boring in comparison. DUIs are a fact of LE life. Until I made captain, and thus outranked anyone working nights, I preferred working nights. That is where the action is. Still miss it - every day.
Inevitably I snagged countless DUIs, because they were there and I was there. I made more DUI arrests than all others combined. I never lost one in court. I was glad to get dangerous drivers off the road.
To clear up a a couple of posts about parking across from bars and indiscriminately pulling over drivers on the assumption they were DUI, we did not do it. Such stops (which are detentions) would be unlawful because there was no probable cause established for the stop. DUIs are so easy to make with probable cause, so no point to shortcuts.
What we did do though, call volume and unit availability permitting, was park aross from certain bars,very visibly. The clientele of such posh waterholes upon exiting had a history of breaking into (sometimes) large brawls, usually involving knives. If they came out and saw us sitting, waiting to pounce, they were much more likely to just saddle up and ride out. That made everyone safer.
I have never understood jeopardizing a LE career by engaging in such corruption. Where the hell was self-pride? Where was integrity? That badge, and what is stands for, had to be what we live for. We have to earn it every day, even in retirement. That was the commitment we made when we took the oath.
Whatever judicial sanctions these individuals receive pale in comparison to the damage they have done.
I can read between the lines. As much as I resent such inferences, I have no grounds to object. The facts are there; anyone who wore or wears a badge will be under suspicion for what we may have done that has never come to light.
So, bad for law enforcement, whoever we are, wherever we are, whenever we were/are.
My 30+ year career, and the LE community where I worked, were boring in comparison. DUIs are a fact of LE life. Until I made captain, and thus outranked anyone working nights, I preferred working nights. That is where the action is. Still miss it - every day.
Inevitably I snagged countless DUIs, because they were there and I was there. I made more DUI arrests than all others combined. I never lost one in court. I was glad to get dangerous drivers off the road.
To clear up a a couple of posts about parking across from bars and indiscriminately pulling over drivers on the assumption they were DUI, we did not do it. Such stops (which are detentions) would be unlawful because there was no probable cause established for the stop. DUIs are so easy to make with probable cause, so no point to shortcuts.
What we did do though, call volume and unit availability permitting, was park aross from certain bars,very visibly. The clientele of such posh waterholes upon exiting had a history of breaking into (sometimes) large brawls, usually involving knives. If they came out and saw us sitting, waiting to pounce, they were much more likely to just saddle up and ride out. That made everyone safer.
I have never understood jeopardizing a LE career by engaging in such corruption. Where the hell was self-pride? Where was integrity? That badge, and what is stands for, had to be what we live for. We have to earn it every day, even in retirement. That was the commitment we made when we took the oath.
Whatever judicial sanctions these individuals receive pale in comparison to the damage they have done.
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For more background:
From a year ago:
Albuquerque DWI officer missed court nearly 100 times
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6g4Hs4nIL8[/ame]
From 1 year ago
Recording: Albuquerque DWI suspect says he was offered a 'guarantee' for $8,500
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNbAdrcfvU[/ame]
From 6 months ago:
Disciplinary files of APD officers involved in DWI unit scandal
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e08iLBmd7s8[/ame]
From a year ago:
Albuquerque DWI officer missed court nearly 100 times
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6g4Hs4nIL8[/ame]
From 1 year ago
Recording: Albuquerque DWI suspect says he was offered a 'guarantee' for $8,500
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNbAdrcfvU[/ame]
From 6 months ago:
Disciplinary files of APD officers involved in DWI unit scandal
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e08iLBmd7s8[/ame]
Erich
Member
This scheme wasn't at the level where I practiced (when I did criminal defense, it was in the appellate courts of NM), and when I first heard about it (and that's a story) I didn't believe it was possible (because of good cops and duty rotation). I suspect it's not the only such enterprise going on in the country; let's hope the sunlight on the scheme results in the world becoming a better and more just place.
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No choice but to give this a "Like."
I have no LE experience, but the above possibility occurred even to me.
NM, a state we haven't been to but thought about it, seriously. How much money should we bring with us?
OP
The price will now be higher than the $8500 Attorney Clear was charging if you plan to drive around while drunk.
The price will now be higher than the $8500 Attorney Clear was charging if you plan to drive around while drunk.
My last drink was when I reached puberty.
OP
Here's a timeline of the scandal going back 20 years.
TIMELINE: A full look at the DWI corruption scandal involving several departments
TIMELINE: A full look at the DWI corruption scandal involving several departments
Why shouldn't the police hang out around the bars at closing time?? You wouldn't expect them to try to stop bank robberies by hanging out in the middle of nowhere. Last year 13,000 people were killed in drunk driving wrecks. I think that is reason enough to stop them at a major source.
The problem wasn't that they were busting drunk drivers. The problem was they were busting them, then selling the drunks a way out of it.
$8,500 is cheap in most locations. Once you pay the fine, pay to attend some court appointed classes, maybe pay to have a device installed in your car, PLUS way higher insurance rates.
If you have a CDL, it cost you your job
The problem wasn't that they were busting drunk drivers. The problem was they were busting them, then selling the drunks a way out of it.
$8,500 is cheap in most locations. Once you pay the fine, pay to attend some court appointed classes, maybe pay to have a device installed in your car, PLUS way higher insurance rates.
If you have a CDL, it cost you your job
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Since they dropped the college requirement in most departments most LEO's never even heard of Sir Robert Peele and what's worse, they don't even care to learn from him. Pretty pathetic...
LVSteve
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And it's not just the police on the street. It can be judges as well. I remember how 2 judges in Luzerne County, PA went to jail for taking bribes from the owners of a private prison in exchange for sending up numerous juvenile defendants on what turned out to be rather questionable sentences. Thousands of delinquency findings ended up being vacated by the PA Supreme Court.
Could this get any worse? One of the judges just got pardoned. That's all I'll say.
