Firearms in your home ??

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Well here's something to think about . Two men broke into a home in Lower Merion Pennsylvania ... actually not very far from me ... at 2:00 am and shot the 60 year old homeowner several times while she was still in her bed . She is still hospitalized in serious condition and is paralyzed .
Her 25 year old son that tried to help her was basically executed with a shot to the back of the head while he lay face down on the floor.
The two men have been arrested . It turns out they worked at a place called Junkluggers ...a place that cleans out homes and properties. Someone from the company had been out to the property to give an estimate on some work and told these two guys that there were a lot of guns in the home .
It gets worse ....they had the wrong adddress .
If you keep firearms in your home as I'm sure pretty much everyone on this forum does it would be a good idea to limit how many people are aware of it.
I've lived at my present address for 25 years and ...as far as I know none of my neighbors know that I have firearms in my home .
I have told my wife to keep it quiet and when our children were in school I told them to make sure they don't let anyone there know either.
I don't throw any gun related magazines in my trash and any empty ammo boxes are shredded or destroyed so you can't tell what the contents were . All labels with my name and address are removed as well .
Overkill ? ...maybe but I dont like to take unnecesary chances.
 
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Empe said:
... it would be a good idea to limit how many people are aware of it.
I've lived at my present address for 25 years and ...as far as I know none of my neighbors know that I have firearms in my home .
I have told my wife to keep it quiet and when our children were in school I told them to make sure they don't let anyone there know either.
I don't throw any gun related magazines in my trash and any empty ammo boxes are shredded or destroyed so you can't tell what the contents were . All labels with my name and address are removed as well .
Overkill ? ...maybe but I dont like to take unnecesary chances.
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This made me think more about being a "gray man" and not let people know I have guns and ammo. I shred all documents and papers, and labels with my name address, etc.. along with bar code on envelopes. I will NOW start shredding anything that may identify anything to do with firearms.

During the last couple years I only pay cash for everything I possibly can for ammo or any firearm related products.

Good food for thought... Thank you.
 
I worked for a carpet cleaning company for 5 years after I got out of the Army.

One thing that I found extremely odd was the number of times I would find unsecured firearms in people's homes.

I would show up at a house where the homeowner wasn't even there and start my job and in the bedroom right there on the nightstand would be a handgun.

I also remember quite a few homeowners who went out their way to show me their gun collections.

I never heard of one our guys stealing a gun but I know a few of them were thieves and I'm certain they would be dumb enough to do so.

When we moved into our apartment we started moving in early in the morning and the very first thing off the moving truck was the gun safe and we got it upstairs and into our bedroom without anyone seeing it.

There are only 3 people who live in this building who were here when I worked for G4S. No one else ever saw me coming or going in uniform carrying my (really their) gun.
 
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No Need To Know as they said in my Army days.
Yes, there's a lot to be said for keeping quiet, maintaining a low profile, etc. The days of gun cabinets, guns over the mantel, etc. are over.
I have an Iron Rule, if maintenance men, delivery men come to my apartment I stay home.
 
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I own a LOT of guns (compared to some of us, but definitely not all). One neighbor knows I have "a" gun. None of the others know anything, other than a couple seeing me load my car to go to the range. I tell them I'm going to shoot my 22's, no matter what is in the cases.

Two friends have spreadsheets of my inventory, storage locations, and copies of keys in case of emergencies. They are also my "family" because most are left to them to keep or dispose of if they have to clean my safes and locked storage out before the landlord finds them. I trust both with my life, and my property.

I entrusted them, as I have a few antiques that I prize more than their worth, and hope that they prize them too when I'm gone.

No stickers, no ball caps, and only a flag decal in the front window.
 
Everyone knows I own guns because I live in Montana, which has the highest percentage of homes with firearms of any state and is number 3 as to percentage of population with hunting licenses. Boarding us are Wyoming, N Dakota, S Dakota and Idaho and they are all right up there with us.

Let me ask this, do you frequent guns stores, ranges, banks, jewelry stores, Ducks Unlimited Banquets, wear a suit, drive a nice car, have a nice house,? Your a target
 
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Two friends have spreadsheets of my inventory, storage locations, and copies of keys in case of emergencies. They are also my "family" because most are left to them to keep or dispose of if they have to clean my safes and locked storage out before the landlord finds them. I trust both with my life, and my property.

I entrusted them, as I have a few antiques that I prize more than their worth, and hope that they prize them too when I'm gone.

No stickers, no ball caps, and only a flag decal in the front window.
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That's a great idea.... I need to provide that to my very best friend... he's a hole-punching, floating garbage, deplorable like me.

I've stopped wearing all my collected hats, shirts, or anything that could mistaken me for gun owner or 2nd Amendment advocate. My range bag is a Craftsman Tool bag. I carefully avoid transferring my firearms to and from my vehicles when visiting the ranges so my neighbors don't catch a visual. I have no stickers on my vehicles. Although my family, and a few close friends know that I have firearms, I don't discuss my hobby or activity or range day events unless they ask. I have a few close neighbors that are Border Patrol agents that know I have a CCW Permit. I'm not paranoid, I just don't feel I need to show anyone how bad I can be.:D
 
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You can make your house the most difficult one on the block to get into but if they want in bad enough, they will get in. We rarely are gone from the house for more than a few hours for various reasons, my wife did an in home business and was robbed at gunpoint once, her car was broke into in front of our son's house and $15K worth of product in five bags was stolen and oddly it didn't look odd when the woman across the street saw it go down. Hold everything loosely...Keep your faith.
 
We can discuss of our firearms online in a forum like this, we are anonymous in the system to a point, but physically close to home...no.

The only people who know I own firearms are the close friends who I would not hesitate to hand over the keys to my place if I were to be away for an extended period in case something were to happen...they have as many or firearms than I do and are as honest as the day is long..
 
My neighbors know I have a gun or two because I shoot them out back on my range. I also hear them shooting their guns on their property.

Sometimes we shoot together. Uninvited participants are not welcome, without "an invitation" of course. We have dogs and we have the will to defend ourselves. Just like God intended.

God Bless America!!
 
About 9 months ago, one of my co-workers was working at home in the middle of the day in a “nice neighborhood”. She happened to be dog-sitting her daughter’s big pit bull. She was sitting at her computer in the kitchen area. Suddenly the dog barked and jumped and headed for the doggy door, she looked out the slider and saw a strange man. He was about to open her back patio door, it was unlocked. He had opened an unlocked gate and walked around into the backyard. When he saw the dog, he ran and somehow got away. She called the police.
The next day her and her husband bought handguns and signed up for private training sessions.

I don’t know if a person can be “too cautious” in today’s high crime rate.
 
When I still lived on the farm, a strange type of guy shows up at my door talking about my collection of dead tractors out back. He pretends interest but keeps nosing around the first-floor rooms. When he notices the IWB compact 45. "Is that a 1911?" It took me a second to realize what he was saying. "Why yes, it is!" at that point he couldn't get away fast enough! I figured I'd be seeing him again, but I'd be looking down a shotgun. He never came around again that we know of. (Good thing he didn't see the gun/reloading room upstairs!)

Ivan
 
There is something to be said for keeping a low profile. There is nothing in my house to suggest gun ownership. Even the reading room/library is devoid of gun books. Books on history, horses, cats, trains, light houses, and Bibles.

All the guns (minus the night table one which is concealed) are in the finished basement, all in safes. Ditto the gun books. No one goes there without my permission, and with the exception of my family, very few friends have been there, and the ones that have I trust with my live and vice versa.

Plus, a service tech can access the mechanical room of the basement from the outside Bilco door without seeing the finished area. If I let him in, of course.

When I had a pick up I had the NRA Benefactor sticker, the protected by S&W sticker, the Ruger front license plate, etc. Not anymore.

I have no stickers on my Atlas. I do have a PENNDOT issued "Preserve Our Heritage" license plate which is a painting of a Pennsy K4 locomotive. So at best I get considered a middle aged foamer.

Best to be a shadow on the wall.
 
Most thieves with half a brain know people have guns in their house and on their person, it’s no secret. That’s why they come at you shooting.
 
Yesterday

I live in a rual area down a "no turn around road" populated with retired "gray wolves" that tend to shoot on their acreage. My two German Shepherds were standing at the fence as I took out the garbage. They probably heard movement in the patch of woods across the single lane dirt road from my place. The sound of a 9mm emptying its magazine was startling and I remembered that my neighbor was an "operator", probably a rattlesnake. There are only 7 families that live on my road and we have all helped each other at one time or another. We do know each other. The sound of gunfire (HP rifles during hunting season) is often and its a given that we are all armed and we are trained. We all have our quota of K9s as well. Perhaps people would call us paranoid which would be considered a compliment as it would be interrupted as a " heighten sense of awareness". In these days and times you need to know who has your back. The gray wolves are still a" Band of Brothers".
 
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