Wee Hooker
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I've heard similar complaints. I guess Ruger has too. I believe the right side safety lever can now be removed. I just noticed the other day that new production MK IV's come with a bushing/spacer to replace it.
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I GOT TO SHOOT A NEW RUGER MARK IV LAST FRIDAY
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I've heard similar complaints. I guess Ruger has too. I believe the right side safety lever can now be removed. I just noticed the other day that new production MK IV's come with a bushing/spacer to replace it.
Wee Hooker
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So the only thing left of the Ruger is the frame and the bolt?......
Nope, his bolt is gone as well now. Replaced with a high end VQ bolt. Which is no different than building up a 10-22 from the receiver. In the end, he's built himself quite a remarkable rimfire pistol that the masses won't really understand, but to a specific group is a thing of beauty. Its not for everyone, but I dig it myself.
Would I trade my Volquartsenized MKIV for a S&W 41? Only if I were going to build up another one later.
Another Mark II fan, 5 in target with aftermarket rear sight. Think it is a Bowen adj rear sight, which they don't appear to offer anymore?
Custom trigger polish job by tens of thousands of rounds fired, and only clean it when it gums up enough to affect reliable function.
Custom trigger polish job by tens of thousands of rounds fired, and only clean it when it gums up enough to affect reliable function.
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I have the same model with a 2.5 lb. trigger pull right out of the box!
I can confirm. Just bought my son a MIV Hunter and it includes these parts. Have not shot it yet, but boy is it sweet in the hand.
bigggbbruce
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Like pharmer says, a little practice and the MKI and MKII are simple to take down and reassemble....
As to the trigger, take it apart and stone the sear and hammer and trigger pull will amaze...
That's above my level of expertise. Triggers have some creep but break @ around 4# on the 2 "target" models. The standard is still new for some reason and it ain't because I shoot adjustable sights better. Joe
The trigger on mine was a bit rough and the overtravel was way excessive. The first problem was solved by snapping it in a lot; it smoothed out from natural wear. The second problem was solved by installing a trigger shoe, adjusted so that it hit the frame above the trigger just a tad after letoff. It's now a sweet trigger setup for minimum expense.
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CLASSIC12
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What are the differences between the mark II and III ?
And what is the hideous LCI in the mark III ?
I’ve always wanted one, with a bull barrel. There are currently two for sale in my area (Switzerland)
As new mark III blued for 400
And a stainless mark II target with threaded barrel for 650
And what is the hideous LCI in the mark III ?
I’ve always wanted one, with a bull barrel. There are currently two for sale in my area (Switzerland)
As new mark III blued for 400
And a stainless mark II target with threaded barrel for 650
Mark III added a button magazine release instead of European-style heel magazine release. Also added a magazine disconnect safety and the LCI (loaded chamber indicator) and these last two items are so horrendous that in my opinion, they should both be stricken from the history of existence as items to add to a legendary rimfire target gun.
I will be more than happy to debate enthusiastically my position on these... besides mucking up a fantastic pistol, these two features actually promote poor gun handling practices. Yes, I said it, and I believe it to my core.
I will be more than happy to debate enthusiastically my position on these... besides mucking up a fantastic pistol, these two features actually promote poor gun handling practices. Yes, I said it, and I believe it to my core.
bigggbbruce
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What are the differences between the mark II and III ?
And what is the hideous LCI in the mark III ?
I’ve always wanted one, with a bull barrel. There are currently two for sale in my area (Switzerland)
And a stainless mark II target with threaded barrel for 650
I really like my MKII.. but wouldn't pay the extra for the threaded barrel, but you may be interested if you can buy silencers..
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CLASSIC12
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In fact I already have a .22 lr silencer
misswired
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Soon after the M4 release some mark 3's and a couple 2's came into the LGS haunts at what I thought were decent prices (2 to 300$)...I'm still butt chaffed over not buying a like new M2 for 250$...
Filo McShoe
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Son got one for his wife, she liked it better before he put a dot on it so now he's pretty much the user. She likes his AR-9 so I guess it all works out.
I was a little shocked at how much he laid out for it but I haven't been keeping up with pricing for years.
I was a little shocked at how much he laid out for it but I haven't been keeping up with pricing for years.
amazingflapjack
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Thanks Chief-I think I'll keep my Mk II-(I would have any way).
CLASSIC12
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Can the magazine disconnect safety be removed, like on a Browning HP ? And where is the LCI situated ?
one eye joe
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One of my friends just bought a brand new Ruger Mark IV and we rode out to the Range last Friday to shoot it - among other stuff.
I will commend Ruger for their newly redesigned pistol that takes down very easily. Push one button and it comes apart. The older design was a p.i.t.a. to say the least! The fit and finish was OK and accuracy was acceptable - although not terrific (might improve with a descent trigger though).
The only real objection that I have with the $450.00 Pistol was the absolutely horrendous Trigger. The pull weight was upwards of 7+ pounds and had much creep! He said he was going to order a Volquartsen Trigger for it ($100 bucks) which should remedy that to about 2.5 pounds according to their advertising.
I know all about liability and price points of this Pistol, I just don't get how Ruger has the guts to label this a "Target" model with such a bad trigger!
Anyway, even with the cost of the Volquartsen trigger replacement the total cost will be about $550 which if it does what they say it will, is still within reason. So unless he just got a "bad one" Ruger has still not really addressed their horrible triggers. I do think they did a great job on the take down though!
SEE POST #7 FOR UPDATE
I MAINTAINED AN AVE IN THE LOW 290s, FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES, WITH A RUGER MK II, GOVERNMENT TARGET MODEL. IT WAS STUFFED FULL OF VOLQUARTSEN PARTS, EQUIPPED WITH AN AIMPOINT, AND WAS COMPETITIVE WITH ANY GUN IN THE BULLSEYE PISTOL LEAGUE......
I'M CERTAIN, THAT WITH A LITTLE INVESTMENT, AND BREAKING IN, THIS NEW RUGER WILL BE A WINNER........
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I must be the luckiest guy with guns. Bought the wife a target Mark III and we both love the gun. Of course I do not bother measuring the triggers on any of our guns. Just load them shoot, and smile. The accuracy on hers is good enough to pop snakes in the middle of the head at 7 yards.
As far as take down it is a breeze as long as you follow the manual.
As far as take down it is a breeze as long as you follow the manual.
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