☝ Stories from a CCW Holder 👂

[InsideWaist]

In a recently closed thread, @jlrhiner mentioned that he has drawn his weapon twice in 35 years as a CCW permit holder. I don't know about you guys, but I would definitely like to hear those stories. Anyone else interested? Comon' Jim...let's here 'em!

(Unless, of course, they are too personal to discuss. If so, I'll understand)

 

[Walkingwolf]

I have pulled mine more times than I can count. Those paper plates are dangerous.

 

[Lostaro]

Closest I've gotten to drawing in self defense (thank goodness!!) was to move my 442 from my ankle to my pocket when I was going to a jobsite that had known "threat"....a huge dog that didn't like humans near his territory...

Figured it may be difficult to draw from my ankle with my foot in a dogs mouth.

Thankfully all worked out and me and the dog came to an understanding...I give him lots of room and he doesn't chew my face off!

 

[Old cop]

Came close a couple of times but never did point the gun at anyone. I posted a couple of days ago, EDC Lesson & Glad I Had My 442 in January 2013. Both times my situational awareness saved my butt.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

In a little less than 8 years I thrust my hand in my pocket to pull if the situation fell apart any further. When my hand went in the pocket, the other guy took off real fast! In Ohio, pulling your weapon and not firing can be taken as brandishing (which you can cause you to lose your license.) 6 years later, I look back and believe the situation really was that bad, and I am very glad I didn't have to draw and fire!

Ivan

PS; My J-Frame is my EDC, there are times I carry other guns but the J-frame is always there! and always in the same place!



Ivan

 

[TX-Dennis]

I've pulled mine a couple times at home to investigate suspicious noises. Both times turned out to be innocent.

If I never have to pull mine in a defensive situation I will die a happy man.

 

[Irn-Bru]

Here's a thread from a few years ago. I was faced with a situation where I almost pulled on some tough guy. Looking back a few years later, I'm so glad I didn't.

Almost pulled today

 

[jlrhiner]

No big secret. I was meeting a property owner in St. Louis to review a repair procedure for his boiler. As I've stated before, I always carry. On my way to meet him, I parked my truck in a lot and had to walk through an alley to get to the location of the meet. At best, describing it as a rough neighborhood would be an understatement. On the way in, several youths were in the alley but didn't say anything when I went in.

On the way out, however, one of them took a liking to my leather coat. He pulled out one of those OTF switch blades and told me to give him my coat. I already had my hand around the butt of my Mdl 36 so by the time he finished his demand he was looking down the barrel. I still have that knife.

#2 was at my home in the city. I had a neighbor who was a survivor of the Bataan Death March and subsequent prison camps. He was crippled and I kind of adopted him and his wife. He would come out on his back porch and smoke a pipe (his wife wouldn't let him smoke in the house) and the aroma would come in the window so I'd know he was out there. So I'm sitting at my desk writing a report and I catch a wiff and know he's out there. All of a sudden, I hear someone shouting, but can't make out what they're saying.

I get up and go to the window and see an "urban youth" jump my neighbors fence from the alley while yelling at my neighbor. I pick up my Goldcup and head out the back door in time to hear the "youth" say "Expletive, I told you to give me a light!" I say "Whats going on here?" and I'm told "Expletive this aint none of your bidness" and he's now just a few feet from my neighbor. I slid the Goldcup out of my waistband and told him to not take another step closer.

One of my best friends is an old Copper, now retired. He used to tell stories about suspects "rabbiting" on him. Well I'm going to tell you, that dude vaporized! Just a couple seconds and he was out of sight.

I hope that satisfies the curiosity.

 

[InsideWaist]

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I hope that satisfies the curiosity.

Yes! Thank you for sharing!

 

[wingriderz]

Hand in pocket twice for humans One time on hip for dog

 

[MichiganScott]

Hand in pocket a couple of times; never pulled it.

 

[richardw]

I have drawn twice since 1989. After retiring and being good with a camera I did some work for title companies photographing residential properties for sale or remortgage, or in foreclosure. I had to photograph interior and exterior. On one job I went upstairs to second floor and upon entering a room found two addicts shooting up. One got up and pulled a knife threatening me if I did not leave. Imagine how startled he was when he saw a handgun suddenly pointed at him. The two of them just ran out of the room and out the front door. I reported it to the police.



The second was a bit scarier. It was last November, and I was going to a Target store to get some shirts. As I approached the store I saw two men standing in front of a woman and little girl. As I got closer I realized the females were Muslim and the men were insulting and threatening them. People were watching it and doing nothing. I walked into the scene and asked the two men to stop. That got them to stop hurling invectives at the woman and girl and direct their attention to me. They told me to mind my own business and get out of there. I refused. One guy threatened to beat the **** out of me, and he was big enough to do it with ease. Then the other guy said something similar. I stepped back a few paces and exposed my IWB carry and drew it, but I did not point it at them. They turned and left. Someone had called the police and they got there shortly after the two men left the scene. That asked me if I had a weapon, and I told them where and what I was t he witnesses were chiming in saying I had protected the woman and girl. The officer questioning me said he was not going to ask me if I drew my weapon because he expected I would not do that unless faced with a deadly weapon. (In PA drawing on someone who is not showing a deadly weapon is a crime, and fists, feet, etc are not considered deadly weapons). I would have had to wait for them to start beating me before I could draw. I decided to let well enough alone and accept the LEO's decision with a thank you. Then I left.

 

[Smoke]

I threw down on a cow at work one night

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I drew my revolver twice or three times during road rage incidents but before I showed the gun I saw an opening for my car, took it, and left the enraged geniuses behind me.

I've thought about it a few times on the street but never yet have had to reach for it.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Walked in to find my house in Harrisburg had been broken into........drew my PPK....... burglar was on his way out the back patio door.

Harrisburg again...sitting on the patio.... domestic in a neighboring parking lot. Guy trying to drag his girlfriend out of her car.......screaming yelling.....got the cordless phone and my 640 from the kitchen ....... called 911........... walked over close to car and yelled at the guy (still trying to get at his GF) that I'd called the cops........gun in my hand.

He looked at me.... heard the sirens and took off running...... I slipped the J frame into the pocket of my cargo shorts. Cops got there about 30 seconds later............................... Oh ya there was a 12 foot chainlink fence with barbed wire on top between me and the lot.

 

[Double-O-Dave]

Several years ago, I had three teeth extracted at the same time, and once the anesthesia wore off, I had the mother of all teeth aches. It was late in the evening, but I finally found a pharmacy that could fill the prescription the doctor phoned in for me. Unfortunately, the pharmacy was located in a bad part of town. I drove down to the pharmacy, picked up my prescription, and was walking towards my car when I noticed a group of about 5 urban youths approaching me. They were between me and my car, and before I could turn around and retreat to the pharmacy, I heard the locks on the pharmacy door clicking shut, and a glance over my shoulder showed the pharmacist lowering the shade and turning off the lights.

I was mad, scared and in pain. Fortunately, I was also armed. I flipped back the corner of my windbreaker and put my hand on the butt of my Colt's Government Model. This caused 2 of the youths to stop and give me the shy "we don't want none" look. Their companions continued to walk towards me, and the guy in the middle started saying "No comprende - no understand". I then drew my pistol and went to a low ready position and said "You boys habla .45?" That caused them to stop, and I said "Look guys, I'm sick and I'm just passing through here. If y'all would let me leave in peace, you'll never see me here again." The guy in the middle thought about it for a second, and said "You're okay, you get a pass since you're a civilian".

I left and went home without incident. A few days later, I was talking to a friend of mine who was a LEO, and I told him what had happened. He told me that I had done exactly the right thing, and that if I had tried to be a tough guy, the situation more than likely would have degenerated very quickly.

Regards,

Dave

 

[InsideWaist]

Closest I've gotten to drawing in self defense ... a huge dog that didn't like humans near his territory

Hand in pocket twice for humans One time on hip for dog

One guy was on each side of the dog getting ready to release it [their dog]. Obviously to fight my dogs.

So, what are everyone's state laws on a CCW/LTC person drawing/brandishing/etc. on a domestic dog?

 

[jlrhiner]

So, what are everyone's state laws on a CCW/LTC person drawing/brandishing/etc. on a domestic dog?

I don't believe it makes a difference if its an aggressive dog or aggressive human. My state does not specifically address holding a family pet at gunpoint.

In the State of Missouri, you don't have a duty to retreat. You have the right to defend yourself. While brandishing is a pretty broad term when used in the self defense world, the dictionary defines it as;
bran·dish
[ˈbrandiSH]
VERB
wave or flourish (something, especially a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement.
synonyms: flourish · wave · shake · wield · swing · swish · display · flaunt · show off

IMO, one or more of the above synonyms would need to be executed in order to be "brandishing". Drawing your CCW and holding it by your side, IMO, does not qualify as "brandishing".

But as we all know, Im not a lawyer. I use a knowledge of the English language and common sense.

 

[BC38]

I've wrapped my hand around the grip of my CCW in a pocket or on my hip a couple of times, but have yet to actually ever had to pull it out or point it.
I've been pretty lucky that way.

 

[Highhawk1948]

Was parked in a dark parking lot at a hospital after visiting hours. Windows half way down. Getting ready to start truck and leave when a man and women walked up to passenger side. Both had a hand hidden. One in her purse one in the right pocket of light jacket. Wanted a ride to a known bad part of town. (And both looked like they belonged in that part of town). I said no I needed to get home. They stood there just staring at me, then looking around inside my truck. This time the women said they need to go now. Right hands still hidden. I have taken my Ruger Blackhawk 41 magnum out of my IWB holster an had put it under a saddle blanket in the passenger seat before going into hospital earlier I slipped my hand under the blanket and got ahold of my gun. Both started telling me I would take them now. I slipped that 41 out and cocked it still watching their hands. They heard the pistol cocking ,looked down and backed up and moved off. I'm sure they had some kind of weapons and if a gun had been pulled I was going to shoot thru the door.