DWalt
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So then where did the ad shown in #52 come from? I also checked and couldn't find any mentions of a new Cobra. With the SHOT show coming up, perhaps the full story will be revealed.
2017: Colt's re-entry into the revolver market
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TAC
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I don't get excited over anything Colt makes these days.
Not to be a doubting Thomas, but I have seen things like this happen before. A company makes an announcement for a new product, but never ends up manufacturing it for some reason or another.
I hope that Colt does not fall into that category! A historic American company like them doesn't need to disappear.
I hope that Colt does not fall into that category! A historic American company like them doesn't need to disappear.
I really enjoy reading the comments in these threads. I think it shows us how diverse and complex the market is today. There are collectors, those that appear utility minded, dreamers longing for the american pride of the past, value seekers, investors etc. The only thing I know about Colt firearms is that they were always expensive and known for their quality. It's been their product differentiation. I have no idea if Colt will ever return to it's former glory or not and I do not have the knowledge to speculate. I know this, there is always a market for high quality items, the higher the price the smaller the market, but the markets are there. It's the numbers game. Keep the great thoughts rolling in. Thanks to all for keeping it interesting.
i have almost no interest in new guns... but i did purchase a colt series 70 reissue government model and the current 1991 model commander.
theyre both very well made and have been 100%... the series 70 reissue is faithful to the old guns.
i only buy 1911's that say COLT on em. colts will always be collectable.
nobody will be collecting kimbers, springfields, dan wessons, rugers, etc, etc.
as far as the cobra goes... i have an early 60's model.. and if i were to buy another cobra, it would be another vintage model.
theyre both very well made and have been 100%... the series 70 reissue is faithful to the old guns.
i only buy 1911's that say COLT on em. colts will always be collectable.
nobody will be collecting kimbers, springfields, dan wessons, rugers, etc, etc.
as far as the cobra goes... i have an early 60's model.. and if i were to buy another cobra, it would be another vintage model.
Colt cared more about Government contracts than anything else.If they ever were to come back it would be in that venue only.Colt bought the factory I use to work at as a teenager.My father in law was a tool crib mgr there.Colt ran that company into the ground in less then ten years.Colt cares about Colt,and not their fan base.Personaly I think that Smith & Wesson has surpassed Colt in every way,some time ago.
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TAC
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I think Colt is grabbing at straws. Colt lost its contract with the US military for M4 rifles in 2013.
They just emerged from bankruptcy this year.
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$5000 to $10,000? each? If that were the case I doubt people would be lining up at those prices.
TAC
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My guess Colt is not actually manufacturing them.
wogentry
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$699 MSRP , utilizes a V-spring (from what I read), smooth linear trigger pull(also read that).
Collo Rosso
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No doubt there's a market there. Have you seen the Korth revolvers by Nighthawk customs? I think that's a niche market best filled by someone like Nighthawk customs though. A large corporate like Colt might be able to do something like S&W with their Performance Center guns.
Oh, all apologies to Shawn. never thought Colt would do it. But... my money is waiting on a 2 3/4" 69 from S&W. Love revolver calibers that begin with 4.
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Anyone have any ideas how will they determine who will get the items when they begin producing them ?
From the Colt forum... "Brent" who is identified as the Colt Custom Shop Foreman, says:
"NDA in place till the 1st so those pics were leaked a bit early. I will give a couple things away though. V-spring, $699msrp, trigger pull is great and linear....
Brent"
FWIW...
I'm really happy with my old Colts, just like I'm really happy with my old Smiths. I know that with computer machining, and improved metallurgy, that it is theoretically possible to produce better revolvers to day than were produced in olden times, but... They will not probably be finished as well, and will sometimes be subjected to "Lawyer" gadgets that spoil the original designs....
I guess time will tell.
Best Regards, Les
"NDA in place till the 1st so those pics were leaked a bit early. I will give a couple things away though. V-spring, $699msrp, trigger pull is great and linear....
Brent"
FWIW...
I'm really happy with my old Colts, just like I'm really happy with my old Smiths. I know that with computer machining, and improved metallurgy, that it is theoretically possible to produce better revolvers to day than were produced in olden times, but... They will not probably be finished as well, and will sometimes be subjected to "Lawyer" gadgets that spoil the original designs....
I guess time will tell.
Best Regards, Les
Methinks I should have sold my Detective Special before this news came out!
I wouldn't worry too much, I think that many of us are still going to prefer the original guns. About 2 or 3 years ago, I bought a newly made Colt Commander. It was really a nicely made gun, and cost close to a thousand bucks, but I just couldn't get to really like it that much (oh, yeah, and on a close to $1,000 gun, it had a plastic mainspring housing)...anyway, I sold it, and shortly thereafter, bought a 1960s Commander, for about the same price, which I like a lot better. They were Both Colts, but the new one just didn't have the same panache as the older one.
By the way, I have a Kimber Ultra CDP II that cost over a thousand, and it came with a plastic mainspring housing as well!! I bought a machined Alloy replacement, but what is with these guys, putting plastic parts in fairly high dollar guns??
Best Regards.....Les
The only thing I can figure is they don't see $1k as a high dollar gun nowadays ! I don't understand it either. Can the margins be that thin ?
Backlighting
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Hard to see how this Colt will unseat the S&W 637 @less than $400 or the S&W 637 Performance Ctr. @ under $500. I certainly won't be replacing my S&W 638 snubby with the new Colt. I'm sure collectors will eat them up though...but will that be enough sales to warrant a long production run?
I hope you're right... but I think I've blown my chance to make a big mega-killing on it!
Now it will probably just go for it's true value, meaning that it's no longer worth me selling it. 
I notice that prices are still sky high for Pythons on that big firearms auction site, but prices for other Colt revolvers (especially snubs) have moderated quite a bit from when I last checked.
Oh well. Just like in my 401(k)/IRA! I'll continue to buy high and sell low!
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Yes, apparently the new Colt revolver is true. However, it is nothing really new. This 'Cobra' looks identical, and most likely is, to the DA revolvers they came out with in the '90s. The DSII, the SFVI, and the Magnum Carry. These guns used a hodgepodge of action parts that reflects the V spring action meshed together with the MKIII action. It is NOT the traditional V spring Colt. So they already made these guns before, for about 10+yrs, then bailed on the whole market.
Plus, Colt has just stopped working on ALL of their old DA revolvers. So why start making the exact same revolvers that you just quit supporting? So much doesn't make sense.
Anyone who wanted a DSII or the like will be happy they don't have to get gouged now by people charging $2K+ for the old models. They should be able to get a new production now for much less. That is a plus. I hope no one started collecting the DSII and others because I think the value may get adjusted now.
I love Colts and want to see them do good, but I just think they are really late to the ball game and have done almost everything wrong up to this point. I would love to give them some business, but I can still buy an old V spring Detective Special for about $500 or less.
Plus, Colt has just stopped working on ALL of their old DA revolvers. So why start making the exact same revolvers that you just quit supporting? So much doesn't make sense.
Anyone who wanted a DSII or the like will be happy they don't have to get gouged now by people charging $2K+ for the old models. They should be able to get a new production now for much less. That is a plus. I hope no one started collecting the DSII and others because I think the value may get adjusted now.
I love Colts and want to see them do good, but I just think they are really late to the ball game and have done almost everything wrong up to this point. I would love to give them some business, but I can still buy an old V spring Detective Special for about $500 or less.
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I don't see one of these new Colts in my future! Why? Just to say I have a new Colt? I much prefer my S&W J frames for CCW.
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I don't think any of the old Detective Specials were rated for +P?
Also it sounds like this one may have a more linear trigger pull, if so that would be a selling point for me as most of the older Colts I've handled had stacking triggers.
I am interested in seeing how this compares to the K6S though, so far I might go with that for .357 magnum capability.
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It all depends on the product.
I don't believe Colt is anywhere close to a large corporation anymore.
Malysh
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The negativity here and with some on the Colt Forum is really getting me down.
For years people complained that Colt should resume revolver production. Now that they are going to, people are still complaining. Ya just can't win.
Jeeeesssshh!
BTW: Colt is making this product themselves, AND, it is not the SF-VI/DS-2 standard lockwork. There will be some differences.
For years people complained that Colt should resume revolver production. Now that they are going to, people are still complaining. Ya just can't win.
Jeeeesssshh!
BTW: Colt is making this product themselves, AND, it is not the SF-VI/DS-2 standard lockwork. There will be some differences.
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Sig could be next. Don't hold me to that I'm not a fortune teller, rumor monger, nor company exec. But I've been told by some managers there that it has been an "ongoing discussion". Now THAT would makes things even more interesting....
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