.44 Hand Ejector, 2nd Model Update

[H Richard]

One Texas gunsmith is Greg Peine Custom Firearms. He is located in Midland Texas. email: [email protected], Phone # 432-553-6972.

He builds custom race guns for action shooters, but does general gunsmithing on all types of firearms. He is also a a competitive shooter.

 

[DARE]

Jim,
Thanks for the list of suppliers for parts. Ordered what was available from Numrich Gun Parts from the 1917 list.
Will try to get the hand and upper side plate screw from one of the other folks.
Will be exciting if I can get this done.

 

[Mbrgr1]

I think we have a plan!

The gun is on it's way to Oklahoma, it will be cleaned, unbent, reassembled, lubed and tested, then the OP will drive up from Texas and we'll run some lead down the barrel alongside my old 2nd model. Armadillos run for your lives!


Cost? OP pay it forward someday. M

 

[DARE]

Waiting on a hand. A couple of other issues to address, but getting there.
Many thanks Mark. Much appreciate your efforts.

 

[Mbrgr1]

Waiting on a hand. A couple of other issues to address, but getting there.
Many thanks Mark. Much appreciate your efforts.

You are welcome, I just want to know who threw this gun off the Hoover dam!


Interestingly, the yoke and side plate number to the gun and the yoke has the detent hole, but the frame does not have the corresponding indent, flat as a pancake!


The cylinder release rod was bent and stuck in the ejector star hole, a little persuasion and some brass hammer tapping got it back in line.


The trigger guard was a bit of a challenge, but it came around and as soon as the hand gets here, we'll see how the star reacts.



The other issue is that the elector rod will not latch as if the barrel is bent upwards, I have checked for a bent rod, but it is not the culprit, very odd, this gun had a rough life!


Mark

 

[Hondo44]

The barrel may have been bent upwards in the same calamity that bent the trigger guard. A tight fitting rod in the barrel bore could be used as a "persuader" to realign it.

We see yokes drilled for the cyl hold open detent used in the late pre war period but without the detent pin and spring installed. Just old inventory.

 

[Mbrgr1]

The barrel may have been bent upwards in the same calamity that bent the trigger guard. A tight fitting rod in the barrel bore could be used as a "persuader" to realign it.

Thanks, I thought about barrel solutions, I am looking for the correct "persuader"

Something weird about beating on other peoples guns.

 

[DARE]

Together Again

Went to Oklahoma yesterday and picked up the gun. Many thanks to Mark(Mbrgr1). He cleaned and reassembled the gun and repaired a couple of problems.
The trigger guard was bent and the barrel was bent upward. The barrel still needs to come down a bit and the trigger guard may not be perfect, but the gun functions.
We had a fun shooting session at Mark's place yesterday.
Besides the .44, we shot several of Mark's guns and several of mine. Of Mark's guns we shot a .44 HE, 2nd Model, his recently acquired .455 HE, a K-22 Combat Masterpiece, a 6MM Flobert single shot, (very interesting gun) and a Spanish copy of a .44 Triple Lock.
Of my guns we shot a pre-war K-22 Outdoorsman, a Registered Magnum and a 4 screw .22 Jet.
A good time was had by all.

 

[steelslaver]

Excellent. If you don't find a rod to tweak the barrel let me know and I will turn one from some brass round stock. But it doesn't look to bad. I suspect that the frame is tweaked a bit tight behind the barrel junction rather than the barrel itself being bend. If it shoots well I would probably leave it be.

Sometimes instead of leaving well enough alone and striving for just right, I have caused more of a problem than I set out to fix.

 

[Wiregrassguy]

Sometimes instead of leaving well enough alone and striving for just right, I have caused more of a problem than I set out to fix.

Yeah. That's what my wife says...[emoji849]

 

[handejector]

Sometimes instead of leaving well enough alone and striving for just right, I have caused more of a problem than I set out to fix.

As a buddy used to say:
"Let's fix it till we ruin it."

 

[Mbrgr1]

Went to Oklahoma yesterday and picked up the gun. Many thanks to Mark(Mbrgr1).

You had me at "Registered Magnum"


P.S. The fire breathing Jet was a nice bonus! Thanks!

 

[DARE]

steelslaver sent me a rod to align my barrel. Actually, the barrel is straight, but pointed up slightly. So the problem is the frame is slightly out of whack. The rod is threaded, so a pointer can be attached. The point should align with the firing pin hole. When it does, adjustment is complete.
The point right now is just a bit low on the firing pin hole. A whack or 2 should correct the problem.
I am out of town for a few weeks. When I return, will go to the local gunsmith and see if he can provide the whacks necessary for the project.
Without further ado, here is the:

steelslaver Persuader, MKI

 

[Mbrgr1]

steelslaver sent me a rod to align my barrel. Actually, the barrel is straight, but pointed up slightly. So the problem is the frame is slightly out of whack. The rod is threaded, so a pointer can be attached. The point should align with the firing pin hole. When it does, adjustment is complete.
The point right now is just a bit low on the firing pin hole. A whack or 2 should correct the problem.
I am out of town for a few weeks. When I return, will go to the local gunsmith and see if he can provide the whacks necessary for the project.
Without further ado, here is the:

steelslaver Persuader, MKI

I beat that frame like a red headed stepchild!, so it will be interesting to see how that works, I was thinking hydraulic press, if I had one, I would have tried it!

 

[Hondo44]

Readers shouldn't be surprised when posters suggest "whacking".

S&W armorers will show you the lead hammers used for correcting alignment problems at the factory armorer training classes.

 

[DARE]

As good as I can get it. Tweaked on the frame a bit and got pretty close with the alignment tool. It shoots good, so I am done.
Many thanks to all that helped. Especially Hondo44, Mbrgr1 and steelslaver.
Three shots offhand at 7 yds. Group measures 11/16" overall. Subtract bullet diameter and think that is .26" center to center group size. Ammo: Federal .44 Spl 200 gr SWCHP.

 

[Hondo44]

Very good!

Time to move the target out to 20 yards and shoot it two handed from the bench over a rest and see what it can really do!