About fed up with BG 380

[Muss Muggins]

Not sure what you are trying to say and imply...
Maybe you flunked basic grammar in elementary school?
I read all my operator manuals; I'm a former record-holding competitive shooter and firearms instructor; have owned more guns of all types than you could imagine; and, I'm not Jerry Miculek nor do you have to be to recognize a crappy gun design. A crappy gun is still a crappy gun no matter whose hands it's in. Just because a few Bodyguards may function properly doesn't mean it's everybody's cup of tea. Keep drinking the S&W Kool Aid and posting insulting assumptions about other forum members... Good Job!
Have a nice day.

Well, in the alternative, not everybody shoots every pistol well. There are times when a perfectly fine pistol design just doesn't fit the way we hold it, handle it, point it, shoot it, or reload. That's why there's so many different designs.

PS: Isn't "Maybe you flunked basic grammar in elementary school?" an insulting assumption about another forum member? Leave that stuff out of the discussion . . .

 

[GeoJelly]

I think you will like the LCP II if you give it a try. I have an original LCP & it is OK, 100% reliable. I have over 500 rounds theough my new LCP II it is also 100% reliable, it is the pocket pistol I have looked for.

Not to venture too far off topic here - but, are you comfortable with the safety in the design of the LCP II? Up front, I don't own one and haven't fired one – but the trigger seems like a cocked SA to me. My LCP seems just right - much better trigger pull than my old BG .380 and I can clearly see the hammer being pushed back some distance as part of the trigger pull.

 

[comiskeybum]

I have a suspicion that a new bodyguard Will debut this week with the already leaked shield 2.0. They could rename it the shield 380 maybe just keep the same name.

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[Old cop]

I got the BG .380 Feb. 2014 and it was flawless for over 800 rounds of FMJ & HP, then light strikes all of a sudden. The one good one was my Gen 2 LCP that I gave that to my son in law. I just trust a J frame more than any of the tiny sub compact guns and now carry a 340PD.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Are we talking about the BG380 with the laser or the M&P380 without the laser. I've got the M&P and I bought it over the Ruger because it was hammer fired allowing for repeat strike and had a safety. I shoot nothing but ball through mine and it has worked as intended for over 200 rounds. I like the Ruger but not having a safety for pocket carry is a no go for me and that is how I carry these. In the pocket-no holster no nothing.

 

[Rastoff]

In the pocket-no holster no nothing.

Pocket carry without a holster is not recommended. At least use a pocket holster. Lots of debris in pockets. Lint alone has buggered up the action of more than a few guns.

 

[micocyco]

Not to venture too far off topic here - but, are you comfortable with the safety in the design of the LCP II? Up front, I don't own one and haven't fired one – but the trigger seems like a cocked SA to me. My LCP seems just right - much better trigger pull than my old BG .380 and I can clearly see the hammer being pushed back some distance as part of the trigger pull.

It is a 6 lb trigger your LCP is 8 lb the biggest difference is the LCP has a long 8 lb pull while the LCP II a light take up to a crisp 6 lb pull. The LCP is just right for some people. To me the trigger in the LCP II feels like my M&P9c.
I have no concerns about carrying my LCP II in the pocket holster that came with it.

 

[kramden]

My wife had a BG for about a month. Biggest problem was trigger pull. Pull the trigger on Friday and it fires on Sat. First S&W we didn't like, or keep!

 

[almightys]

I have had a good experience with mine so far. I mean yes trigger pull is forever but I'm able to keep all 6 shots within the circles of a 8" target at 10 yrds. While shooting at a pretty good pace as the range will allow. I think it's just a practice issue. My only regret is that stupid laser, worthless imo


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[eahicks]

I have had a good experience with mine so far. I mean yes trigger pull is forever but I'm able to keep all 6 shots within the circles of a 8" target at 10 yrds. While shooting at a pretty good pace as the range will allow. I think it's just a practice issue. My only regret is that stupid laser, worthless imo


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I agree. I think people expect a small pistol like that to handle like a full size weapon. It functions exactly as it was designed... just takes practice.
I don't have the laser version. I think that is useless too on a gun that is really a point and shoot defense weapon.


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[micocyco]

I agree. I think people expect a small pistol like that to handle like a full size weapon. It functions exactly as it was designed... just takes practice.
I don't have the laser version. I think that is useless too on a gun that is really a point and shoot defense weapon.


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I did not expect to find a pocket pistol that functions as much like my M&P9c as I did after having a LCP for many years & shooting an older & newer BG, but this LCP II is close, I think real close.

 

[mrmike7189]

No problems

I can hit anything up to 400yards with the bodyguard. Never a problem. jerry

 

[Watchdog]

About fed up with BG 380 I really don't want to get into a long term exchange with S&W about it-sending it back and forth. I really DO like this little pistol, but what isn't right here?

It isn't a Glock 42, that's what.

 

[RGVshooter]

I've carried my M&P 380 off/on for the past 2 years, never had a problem with it. Fired over 1k rounds thru it. mine has been 100% reliable with carry ammo such as Sig Elite, hydra shoks or critical defense. As far as range ammo, you have to find which brand ammo has the softer primers. the M&P380 doesn't like hard primers such as S&B, Monarch or PPU, that's where you run into light strike problems on these little guys....

 

[OLDSTER]

I've carried my M&P 380 off/on for the past 2 years, never had a problem with it. Fired over 1k rounds thru it. mine has been 100% reliable with carry ammo such as Sig Elite, hydra shoks or critical defense. As far as range ammo, you have to find which brand ammo has the softer primers. the M&P380 doesn't like hard primers such as S&B, Monarch or PPU, that's where you run into light strike problems on these little guys....

YEP. After test firing several brands with my BG, which I purchased last year, I found that the Hornady American Gunner is what the little pistol likes. Nearly 800 rounds and 100% reliability later, I love the BG. BTW, my previous .380s were a Kahr ( I sold 'cause the trigger guard would beat up my finger), and a Ruger ( I traded on the BG); they too needed ammo they liked.

 

[wingriderz]

I've never heard anyone sing praises to the BG380.

And that is sad in my view.It puts a big ole mark in the S & W name. I own the original in 380 pocket. The Kel Tec. ( 2008) mine has thousands threw it been very reliable. Smith has had plenty of time in my view to fix there issue with their 380. Others have I M H O.

 

[KSDeputy]

I sold mine NIB, after dry firing it once. I bought a great Ruger Custom LCP. I hate to say I told you so, so I won't. In my opinion the BG is not a well made, or well designed pistol.

 

[RGVshooter]

YEP. After test firing several brands with my BG, which I purchased last year, I found that the Hornady American Gunner is what the little pistol likes.

Coming to think of it, I don't recall having any problems with Hornady American Gunner in any of my pistols.

 

[dick723]

While I'm a S&W guy , the LCP Custom is what you seek!

I shoot a Bersa Thunder .380. One thing most .380's I see do not like the winchester flat nose round. My BT.380 will shoot anything but that round. It shoots the freedom flat nose no problem