shouldazagged
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What's to be remorseful about? You done good, kid!
Almost Bought a Colt Python But....
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I'm glad I already have my pythons...wouldn't mind additional but...not at todays prices
Well in my opinion it looks like you have chosen... wisely.
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BigBill
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Do the math 3 revolvers vs 1. U done ok.
Had it been a pristine new in box Python for that price, I would have gone with the Python. The condition was probably 90% with no box. These guns seem in great shape and lock up tight. There's some slight play in the 586, but nothing I'm worried about.
If someone offered an even trade for a new Python, I'd have some serious thinking to do.
If someone offered an even trade for a new Python, I'd have some serious thinking to do.
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I bought a brand new Python in 1972 for $198.00. Still have it. Still shoot it. Won't sell it. I certainly wouldn't buy one now. The prices are just plain stupid. With so many for sale, it's hard to believe the prices stay so high.
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uechikid
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Nice revolvers! Are they shooters or safe queens?
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Beautiful revolvers! Back when stainless steel looked like stainless steel. I'll only buy the old Smith revolvers since the current "fashion" is to make the stainless look like aluminum.
Goodnews
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I was setting out to buy a Ruger GP 100 in lieu of not being able to afford a Python, when I spotted a 686 Classic Hunter. Never looked back. Best gun I have ever owned. Yes, I love Pythons, and respect them immensely, but I would not part with my 686 for anything. Best trigger ever, just 'feels' right, and you honestly don't think you can miss when you shoot this gun.
Irn, I think you made the wise decision.
The 586 and 19-4 will probably be safe queens. I have a 686 that I shoot, but the 629 will be fired now and again
smokey04
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Irn-Bru, go to a near by Catholic Church, take 6 votive candles[don't forget the donation] out to the range, light them up and shoot the flame out[NOT the candle]. If that doesn't work move closer and try it on the next 3. If that don't work go back to the church and pray for forgiveness. As penance, send me those guns and I'll try to bargain you a place in the Heavenly Rifle and Pistol club. Nick
Georgia1911
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I rather like Colts, but would have done the very same thing given the chance.
gilroy
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Good deal. Really either way. Pythons, and any other gun for that matter are worth whatever the market is willing to pay. Colt is not making any more.
I have several Smiths and one 6" Blue Python that I bought like new with the original worn box and papers for $2K last year. I love my Smiths, but I must admit, there is something special about the Colt laying on my desk. Agree, its mostly a desk top paper weight, as it will not see any real life duty. But I am proud to own it. Hey! Why not start saving for a Python to keep the Smiths company! Both are better investment than CDs these days for sure.
I have several Smiths and one 6" Blue Python that I bought like new with the original worn box and papers for $2K last year. I love my Smiths, but I must admit, there is something special about the Colt laying on my desk. Agree, its mostly a desk top paper weight, as it will not see any real life duty. But I am proud to own it. Hey! Why not start saving for a Python to keep the Smiths company! Both are better investment than CDs these days for sure.
Great looking firearms Sir. You'll like that 586 even more if you would shoot it! I received my 586 no dash this week from a forum member here. I'll be getting it dirty the weekend.
oneflycowboy
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I like Colt revolvers, but they are safe Queens/BBQ guns for the most part. It's nice to take a gun out and shoot it without worrying about scratching it up or damaging a collectors item and losing $$$.
You made the right choice and congrats on 3 nice guns.
I've said this before; having owned a variety of snakes in my time, the biggest reason I wish I stilled owned them is to sell them now for the crazy prices you see today.
I've said this before; having owned a variety of snakes in my time, the biggest reason I wish I stilled owned them is to sell them now for the crazy prices you see today.
colt python versus smith
owned a python back in the day 6" barrel, wish i had it now just for the value it carries. i found mine to be a very good revolver. that said, i recently purchased a 4" barrel 586- no dash, almost brand new. i was worried about the primer blow back issues, not now, put a good amount of rounds thru her, never a miss. this model smith and wesson has absolutely no favors to ask in any area. it shoots equal to if not better, looks just as good, maybe better. they say its a poor mans python, i'll take it. i believe you made a great choice. very smart of you, you walked away with a tremendous value for yourself. keep your powder dry brother
owned a python back in the day 6" barrel, wish i had it now just for the value it carries. i found mine to be a very good revolver. that said, i recently purchased a 4" barrel 586- no dash, almost brand new. i was worried about the primer blow back issues, not now, put a good amount of rounds thru her, never a miss. this model smith and wesson has absolutely no favors to ask in any area. it shoots equal to if not better, looks just as good, maybe better. they say its a poor mans python, i'll take it. i believe you made a great choice. very smart of you, you walked away with a tremendous value for yourself. keep your powder dry brother
Budnjax
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Pythons are a big stroke job IMHO
I have personally owned a dozen or so Pythons over the years, none currently, and have wholesaled and retailed quite a few of them. That being said I consider the Python to be way over-rated as a usable firearm, although some back in the 1950's did have a spectacular blue job. I would take most any S&W 357 revolver with a good trigger job over the best shooting Python I have had. And I wouldn't give you $2000 for 4 Pythons, much less one gun (unless I planned to sell them to some hyped-up buyer). Pythons all have such a big frame and long reach between the trigger and backstrap that makes them suitable only for those with large hands. The Python cylinder hand is weak and frequently needs to be replaced. The last Python I bought new needed a new hand after about 2500 rounds of midrange wadcutters (I've never had a hand totally wear out on any S&W). The charge holes of the Python cylinder were undersized, requiring 357 cases to be punched out with a wooden dowel and the distance between the cylinder face and the back of the barrel was less than .001 inch, meaning the gun would lead-up and stop functioning after 50 or so lead bullets. Accuracy was also poor; when I returned the gun to Colt they told me their accuracy standard for Pythons was the same as any of their other revolvers at the time: 3.5 inch group at 15 yards...every S&W I have ever owned would do better than that. So much for a supposedly hand-fitted gun. I think you made the right choice in passing-over the Python.
I have personally owned a dozen or so Pythons over the years, none currently, and have wholesaled and retailed quite a few of them. That being said I consider the Python to be way over-rated as a usable firearm, although some back in the 1950's did have a spectacular blue job. I would take most any S&W 357 revolver with a good trigger job over the best shooting Python I have had. And I wouldn't give you $2000 for 4 Pythons, much less one gun (unless I planned to sell them to some hyped-up buyer). Pythons all have such a big frame and long reach between the trigger and backstrap that makes them suitable only for those with large hands. The Python cylinder hand is weak and frequently needs to be replaced. The last Python I bought new needed a new hand after about 2500 rounds of midrange wadcutters (I've never had a hand totally wear out on any S&W). The charge holes of the Python cylinder were undersized, requiring 357 cases to be punched out with a wooden dowel and the distance between the cylinder face and the back of the barrel was less than .001 inch, meaning the gun would lead-up and stop functioning after 50 or so lead bullets. Accuracy was also poor; when I returned the gun to Colt they told me their accuracy standard for Pythons was the same as any of their other revolvers at the time: 3.5 inch group at 15 yards...every S&W I have ever owned would do better than that. So much for a supposedly hand-fitted gun. I think you made the right choice in passing-over the Python.
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LJBrennan007
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So many Pythons and Smiths, so little money...
I agree with everyone that getting the minty M629, M586 and M19 guns makes more sense than spending the same amount of money on a Python. Also agreed is that you can actually shoot and enjoy all three of those guns and not feel guilty about devaluing any of them. Also agreed is that although Colt no longer makes them, there are a ton of Pythons out there for sale, and having watched them for the past 5-6 years, it seems they have maxed out in price, so you probably can buy one in 2-3 years for the same price they are today ($2000-2500). This said, of all the guns in my safe, the 6" blue snake that I bought new in 1980 when I got out of college would probably be the very last gun to go if I had to sell them all. Killed my first handgun whitetail with it (and many more), took dozens of trophies shooting IPSC revolver class with during the 80's, have fired thousands of rounds just plinking, and the gun still looks almost new and shoots better than any revolver I've ever owned. No question that if I did not have a 4" and 6" Python now, owning at least one would be so high on my bucket list that I'd be selling SOMETHING to get my hands on one before I died. Yeah, Python fever does that to a gun guy, and especially to a revolver guy...
I agree with everyone that getting the minty M629, M586 and M19 guns makes more sense than spending the same amount of money on a Python. Also agreed is that you can actually shoot and enjoy all three of those guns and not feel guilty about devaluing any of them. Also agreed is that although Colt no longer makes them, there are a ton of Pythons out there for sale, and having watched them for the past 5-6 years, it seems they have maxed out in price, so you probably can buy one in 2-3 years for the same price they are today ($2000-2500). This said, of all the guns in my safe, the 6" blue snake that I bought new in 1980 when I got out of college would probably be the very last gun to go if I had to sell them all. Killed my first handgun whitetail with it (and many more), took dozens of trophies shooting IPSC revolver class with during the 80's, have fired thousands of rounds just plinking, and the gun still looks almost new and shoots better than any revolver I've ever owned. No question that if I did not have a 4" and 6" Python now, owning at least one would be so high on my bucket list that I'd be selling SOMETHING to get my hands on one before I died. Yeah, Python fever does that to a gun guy, and especially to a revolver guy...
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9mmsubgun-m11
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I would shoot the 586.
Very nice purchase!!! That's exactly the kind of thinking that always stopped me short of buying the Python. I should have bought one way back when, but knowing me, it would have been traded off by now. Again, congratulations, you did well.
yes, three beautiful pistols. I tried to get a Accurate Python and couldn't find one. but now I have a 686 6 inch, a model 28 with a trigger job(which is very accurate) I found a 5 inch model 27 and it's very accurate, and a model 57 6 inch, which will shoot with any of them. if any of these guns break(that I can't fix myself) S&W can fix them. I'm hearing tails that Colt can't get a python back timed right if it breaks.(I really don't know.) and yes, I have a few other "N" frame smiths ( I love them all) I also have a model 28 in .44 special, with a 6 or 6.5 inch barrel.(a gunsmith friend built it for me about 40 years ago and it will be the last gun I ever get rid of, they just don't make guns that accurate any more. so, no more colts.! Has anyone ever seen a 5 inch model 57???? I need one....
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I'm jealous. Three beautiful guns, particularly the Model 19. I'm also mystified at the fascination with Pythons and all things Colt. I've been in law enforcement since 1980. When I started EVERYONE carried a revolver. And practically everyone carried S&W--and it wasn't because of price. How can you pull the trigger (which goes on forever) on a Python, and even reasonably compare it to the trigger pull of a Smith? Keep the snakes--they have been grossly overpriced since their birth, and never worth the money. S&W is the true Cadillac of revolvers--always has been.
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