It didn't take long for the news of the proposed ban on .223 AP cartridges to clear the shelves of all .223 ammo. I bought a box of 100 last week and there was a normal supply on hand. I noticed today that the .223 space was empty. Checked online with Midway and Cabelas and most .223 is out of stock, except for the steel cases or the really expensive stuff. Apparently many people fear the worst in the future.
And then there were none...
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Argonnakid
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Have already heard about price inflation too. Here we go again!!!!
Several parallel posts on variations of the online petition and letters against the proposed ban on 5.56 M855 62 g.
The assumption that the worst will happen has hit everything 5.56 or .223 in my area. I have a friend who has a 5.56, but was traveling, so I picked up a few remaining ZQI 30 round boxes at WM. I contribute something to the ammo kitty when we go to the range, and this seemed a good move. Have not seen and 62g since, and even the .223 was all gone last night when I went by. May turn out to have been a great move.
Ugly. Panic buying set in. This is actually worse than .22 - at my WM there was a fist-fight, with police called over the last bulk boxes.
The assumption that the worst will happen has hit everything 5.56 or .223 in my area. I have a friend who has a 5.56, but was traveling, so I picked up a few remaining ZQI 30 round boxes at WM. I contribute something to the ammo kitty when we go to the range, and this seemed a good move. Have not seen and 62g since, and even the .223 was all gone last night when I went by. May turn out to have been a great move.
Ugly. Panic buying set in. This is actually worse than .22 - at my WM there was a fist-fight, with police called over the last bulk boxes.
Obama has done wonders for gun/ammo sales since he took office.......no need to advertise with a salesmen like him around!
I was dropping off a shotgun for a stock repair the other day and loud gun store guy (you all know him) at the LGS was telling some other patrons about how the Gov't was getting ready to ban all .223/5.56 ammo so get it while u can.
Argonnakid
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That is so true!
lamarw
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Recently scored an additional 1500 pieces of brass plus, bullets, primers and powder for 5.56/.223 reloading. Life is good. 
I also now have the Dillon 600 swagger which is a marvelous device for crimped brass.
I also now have the Dillon 600 swagger which is a marvelous device for crimped brass.
TheMaineEvent
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Fools and there money are soon parted. There's still cheap 223 to be had, but people will buy into the theory that it's all going to go away and buy up the expensive stuff.
If you don't prepare for times like these and didn't learn your lesson after Newtown then I've got zero sympathy for you. It's only going to get worse the close to the elections so you better buy what you can when you can.
If you don't prepare for times like these and didn't learn your lesson after Newtown then I've got zero sympathy for you. It's only going to get worse the close to the elections so you better buy what you can when you can.
JaPes
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As we get closer to election cycles, panic occurs. People panic buy ammo and firearms. It always starts with something.
When there was talk of a nation wide ban on magazines with standard capacities greater than 10 rounds, there was a run on every magazine out there. When there was talk of banning modern semi-automatic sporting rifles, there was a run on AR-15's, AK-47's, then everything else.
One type of 5.56 projectile might be banned, and there's a run on all 5.56/.223 cartridges. I saw folks grabbing up any .223 ammo on the shelf without regard to price, projectile weight, projectile type, etc. It's silly. I've started to notice the 5.56/.223 panic is leaking over just a little bit to .308. I'm waiting for the panic to snowball again like the last time.
The Maine Event is right. If you haven't learned your lesson by now and get caught unprepared, then it sucks to be you. I don't want to hear whining about gun show price gouging, whining about retailers, whining about fellow firearms enthusiasts who prepared and calling them hoarders.
Those of us who learned:
1. Slowly built up enough ammo to support our habits for 18 months. I didn't go out and clear shelves. I didn't wait at a store for a truck to arrive. Over time, when ammo was plentiful, I bought an extra box here or there and set it aside.
2. Bought firearms before the a panic run. Usually there's lots of supply, low demand, driving prices low.
3. Saving our $$$ to buy unfired or slightly used firearms after the panic. They overextend to buy over priced firearms on credit. I had one buddy think he could buy a few guns on credit. When the ban happened, he would unload a few at a higher price to cover his total cost. Guess what happened to that fool when ban never materialized and the credit card bill came due?
There's lots of nice unfired or very lightly used firearms for sale after a panic. Lots of bargains to be had.
TheMaineEvent
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I do agree that it seems to be bleeding over somewhat to 308, which sucks for me since I just bought an M1A, lol.
JaPes
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I'm jealous.
I want a .308 caliber semi-auto. The only thing holding me back is the cost of ammo. .308 is much support using a bolt action rifle. If I fire 20 rounds of .308 out of my humble Ruger American Compact over an hour at the range, I'm in too much of a hurry.
MichiganScott
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A few of us are old enough to remember the Gun Control Act of 1968. Most of us should be able to recall the panic and shortages that still haven't ended after Newtown and Aurora. If you have not been stocking up at cheap, or at least decent prices, then I have no sympathy.
I woke up two weeks ago and read about the M855 proposed ban. I bought two cans before breakfast at less than $0.40/rd delivered. I only purchased 500 rds. of XM193 because I still have cases of it leftover from before that day in December two years ago. I also reload my match grade ammo and have a couple thousand Sierra MK's in the closet.
Once when responding to a thread about why I have 60+ 15 and 30 rd mags on hand, I stated that they make great items for trading during times of shortage. Oh, and I never paid more than $13/mag when other people were paying $50.
I had originally planned on spending my retirement at the gun club, but it looks like my health will prevent much of that. At least I will be able to treat some of my family members to a cheap entrance into my heritage and sell the rest at enough profit to spend more than a few days in Margaritaville. I hope they learn the same lessons about life that I did.
I woke up two weeks ago and read about the M855 proposed ban. I bought two cans before breakfast at less than $0.40/rd delivered. I only purchased 500 rds. of XM193 because I still have cases of it leftover from before that day in December two years ago. I also reload my match grade ammo and have a couple thousand Sierra MK's in the closet.
Once when responding to a thread about why I have 60+ 15 and 30 rd mags on hand, I stated that they make great items for trading during times of shortage. Oh, and I never paid more than $13/mag when other people were paying $50.
I had originally planned on spending my retirement at the gun club, but it looks like my health will prevent much of that. At least I will be able to treat some of my family members to a cheap entrance into my heritage and sell the rest at enough profit to spend more than a few days in Margaritaville. I hope they learn the same lessons about life that I did.
JaPes
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I agree with you 100%. Some people lose sight that a firearm without ammunition is just a really expensive paperweight. They go and buy gun after gun without slowly building up their on hand ammo supply.
I didn't have to go running out to buy .223/5.56. I have a couple cases of Wolf Gold and other various rounds on hand.
I have once fired brass, primers, powder, and projectiles ready to load. I have about 750 reloaded .223 on hand on top of the factory ammo.
That they do. During a panic, a $14 PMAG turns into a $100 PMAG. During a panic the perceived value of any AR-15 magazine increases. I have a few PMAGS and standard GI Mags w/magpul followers on hand. Bought them when they were $7 or less each.
The one that still makes me smile is .22lr. When I'd buy a 550 round brick of .22lr to shoot, I'd buy an extra brick. This was when a brick was $18. I go to the range with a 550rd brick today, and some on the range look at me like I rode in on a unicorn. Because I had a little foresight (not hoarding), the .22lr shortage hasn't been an issue for me yet.
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schgsd
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I had a ways to travel for work today so I worked 3 Wally's into the trip. 2 were completely cleaned out of 5.56/223 but one had a small collection. I left with the 3 boxes of the ZQ that were there and a round 100 pack of TulAmmo 9mm. I've amassed several cases worth of 9mm and 5.56 in the last year while still being able to shoot some so I'm not sweating.
Got a little voice telling me I might want to look more serious into reloading though.
Got a little voice telling me I might want to look more serious into reloading though.
JaPes
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Reloading is a complimentary skill to marksmanship. Reloading is another skill/ability that insulates me from ammo availability and price fluctuations.
I read this thread before I went to bed last night and thought "Here we go again!". When I'd heard of the EO I thought people would only wig out about the green tip....which I don't shoot. So I promptly forgot about it.
So although my components are not in too bad of shape I knew I'd breathe a little easier if I got some bullets. Fortunately a great LGS was still stocked really well. Coming home with those and primers makes me calm. Now things are in my control and can look forward to the fun of assembling them.
I got burned by the .22 situation. I went a year without any. I've been doing what others describe: When I drive by a place I stop in. If I can get some I do - no panicing. As a result I now don't have to worry about it.
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So although my components are not in too bad of shape I knew I'd breathe a little easier if I got some bullets. Fortunately a great LGS was still stocked really well. Coming home with those and primers makes me calm. Now things are in my control and can look forward to the fun of assembling them.
I got burned by the .22 situation. I went a year without any. I've been doing what others describe: When I drive by a place I stop in. If I can get some I do - no panicing. As a result I now don't have to worry about it.
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Maddmax
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Now is an EXCELLENT time to stock up on once-fired brass at the range!
MichiganScott
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Wait!! You know where there is a range where there is once fired brass? At my club, it seldom even hits the ground.
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I hope everyone remembers the ones that have s already started to gouge for 223/556
I hope everyone remembers the ones that have s already started to gouge for 223/556
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