Anyone notice this issue with their Shield?

[MaxdOut]

First post, I joined due to my pending Shield purchase. I put a deposit down on one since LGS is out, but i am interested in how S&W will handle this. So I hope this thread stays open. I am not detered from my purchase, but wondering what the outcome would be....

 

[Fulton722]

... , but wondering what the outcome would be....

Hopefully Smith & Wesson doesn't waste too much time on this NON-issue.

 

[Fercho64]

GEE, Sorry guys

Here is from another thread elsewhere


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[blujax01]

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"Doc it hurts when I do this."

"Well, stop doing that!"

 

[kris7047th]

First post, I joined due to my pending Shield purchase. I put a deposit down on one since LGS is out, but i am interested in how S&W will handle this. So I hope this thread stays open. I am not detered from my purchase, but wondering what the outcome would be....

There is nothing to handle. Just shoot it. I contacted my gunsmith and sent him a link to this thread, and he said, well you really don't want to know. Anyways he did end with "It's a NEW GUN .. SHOOT IT !! There's a bunch a ... on those forums " In short, there are a bunch of jerks using this as an excuse to **** on the Shield. What they need to do is stop acting like a bunch of fear mongering morons scaring off Shield owners and future buyers. Where did this pop up ? KahrTalk? That should be a clue !

 

[Pointblank2U]

Hi
Its neither a new product or an upgrade. Its simply a scaled down version of a very proven S&W M&P. Like the Glock19/26
G23/27 Any 1911 Full size,Commander Size,or Officers Model.
Like the other forum member said its TOTALLY a break in issue. Put some rounds through that bad larry and Charlie Mike (Continue to March)

Not a new model.. yeah right!

 

[shipwreck]

There is nothing to handle. Just shoot it. I contacted my gunsmith and sent him a link to this thread, and he said, well you really don't want to know. Anyways he did end with "It's a NEW GUN .. SHOOT IT !! There's a bunch a ... on those forums " In short, there are a bunch of jerks using this as an excuse to **** on the Shield. What they need to do is stop acting like a bunch of fear mongering morons scaring off Shield owners and future buyers. Where did this pop up ? KahrTalk? That should be a clue !

I totally agree. To manually ride the slide and force it to stop - and then call it a "problem" - damn. Many, many other guns have this "problem." This is just ridiculous. Even happy Shield owners are trying to find something wrong with the gun that doesn't matter.

 

[kris7047th]

Not a new model.. yeah right!

Have you even looked at the internals of a Shield, or are you just *opining* ?? I HAVE a M&P9c to compare with and I can say that what counts is nothing new .. just the size.

 

[mcracco]

Interesting. I don't own a Shield but I just checked my two 9 M&P's; FS returns to battery no matter what, Pro will not.

I'm not worried, both shoot great.

 

[Moonman]

fercho64,

You say "the extractor will still hold a 230 grain against the breech face ..............................."

We're discussing the M&P SHIELD 9MM AS VERY FEW 40 S&W ARE OUT IN THE SHIELD AT THIS TIME. NO 45 CAL SHIELDS EXIST.

If you're using a 230 grain cartridge, you are not using the firearm being discussed and need to GET WITH THE PROGRAM.BEFORE DISPLAYING YOUR EXPERTISE!

 

[kris7047th]

I totally agree. To manually ride the slide and force it to stop - and then call it a "problem" - damn. Many, many other guns have this "problem." This is just ridiculous. Even happy Shield owners are trying to find something wrong with the gun that doesn't matter.

Makes you wonder what their real experience with handguns really is. I will admit that I AM NEW, just bought my first handgun three years ago, but I quickly saw this for what it really is when I checked my 9c which has never failed to fire. Then I sent a link of this thread to the guy who does all the work on my M&Ps. People need to get a grip and stop listening to pot stirrers from KahrTalk and elsewhere.

 

[kris7047th]

GEE, Sorry guys

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Are you kidding me ?? The Shield is a NEW GUN !! For cripes sake .. it will take time and rounds to break that spring in !!!

 

[SteveInAustin]

Are you kidding me ?? The Shield is a NEW GUN !! For cripes sake .. it will take time and rounds to break that spring in !!!

For the record, my Shield does have this issue when there are rounds in the magazine but my full size M&P 40 does not.
I called S&W just to see what they say and was told the gun needs to be broken in and asked that I call back if the issue remains after putting a few hundred rounds through the pistol.

Not trying to argue with anyone on whether this is/is not an issue. Just reporting what I was told by S&W.

 

[kris7047th]

For the record, my Shield does have this issue when there are rounds in the magazine but my full size M&P 40 does not.
I called S&W just to see what they say and was told the gun needs to be broken in and asked that I call back if the issue remains after putting a few hundred rounds through the pistol.

Not trying to argue with anyone on whether this is/is not an issue. Just reporting what I was told by S&W.

Because you have a FULL SIZE. The spring isn't as tight compared to a compact and the Shield. GEESH

 

[wachuko]

Well... thank you all for the comments... I went ahead and bought mine

 

[kris7047th]

Well... thank you all for the comments... I went ahead and bought mine

Take it out and shoot the heck out of it. Enjoy!

ps . get a decent holster. The IWB Galco natural leather isn't expensive and won't cause it to go out of battery .. I know I also just received my RCS Raven Concealment Systems Phantom for the Shield. I bought the Galco because I thought I would have a looonng wait for the Raven .. lol

And lube it where it says on the barrel and other key points.

 

[Moonman]

HELLO, THIS DISCUSSION CONCERNS THE "SHIELD" ONLY, PLEASE!!!!!!

 

[Fercho64]

kris7047 and moonman, is obvious that you are just picking apart a reference to a thread that I found elsewhereand forgot to read the second line where I stated that it was someone else's thread. I corrected this by putting it in red text. Next time please read the entire thread.

First of all I do not have any complaints with my SHIELD. There are videos out there from other M&P models where people are complainig about the exact same issue. I understand its not the same gun but the mechanics and internal design other than the safety are the same, It does not take a brain surgeon to figure this one out. If there is a problem most likely the solution for one will work for the other one as this would have nothing to do with the caliber but the design itself.

I have put about 400-500 rounds thru mine and are buying two more shields for my boys. I am trying to work on my own guns and do all of my mods myself.

By the way this issue has been brought up with other models. I will be an idiot to try to reinvent the wheel to make a car roll . Thats why we reference to older post.

My SHIELD does the same thing, I can live with it but if I can find a solution for it I will implement it.

 

[DocGlock]

Okay Doc, you are an armorer so you can figure this out. Is it maybe due to the double spring recoil assembly? Maybe a tad stiffer spring would solve the issue?

I don't see it as needing to figure anything out. Did you miss the part where I said "Am I worried about it? NO."? For now, I don't consider it an issue.

 

[kris7047th]

kris7047 and moonman, is obvious that you are just picking apart a reference to a thread that I found elsewhereand forgot to read the second line where I stated that it was someone else's thread. I corrected this by putting it in red text. Next time please read the entire thread.

First of all I do not have any complaints with my SHIELD. There are videos out there from other M&P models where people are complainig about the exact same issue. I understand its not the same gun but the mechanics and internal design other than the safety are the same, It does not take a brain surgeon to figure this one out. If there is a problem most likely the solution for one will work for the other one as this would have nothing to do with the caliber but the design itself.

I have put about 400-500 rounds thru mine and are buying two more shields for my boys. I am trying to work on my own guns and do all of my mods myself.

By the way this issue has been brought up with other models. I will be an idiot to try to reinvent the wheel to make a car roll . Thats why we reference to older post.

My SHIELD does the same thing, I can live with it but if I can find a solution for it I will implement it.

I saw that, but why not reference only what was pertinent to this thread? Because someone is going to jump all over that and start a *rumor* "I heard ...* on another board with false information. One guy already started a thread tossing out what he heard from a guy who heard ... about the Shield frame cracking when it was an OLD ISSUE with an M&P. Another member stopped it asap recognizing it for what it was.

As for implementing a fix S&W tech already said to SHOOT IT and break it in. I wouldn't think of touching the spring when it is new. My 9c spring is still stiff after over 2,000 rnds. The springs in compacts and smaller are just a lot stiffer than the FS. My 9c does the same thing .. but only if I MAKE it. It has never happened on it''s own .. ever! Same with my Shield. I really have to wonder about the *agenda* behind the video provided in the OP. The guy was a moron with his hand in front of a LOADED gun and a finger curled over the trigger guard !! Doh ..