We have a 2022 Honda Touring, and we can turn off the feature.
Auto Start Stop
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Yes we have medical exemptions...but I still get stopped if they see me not wearing it. I even put the belt on and put the shoulder strap behind my shoulder...and I have been stopped for wearing the darn thing incorrectly. I don't hate seatbelts but the Alarm is more than aggravating. I do wear the belt a lot of the time with it under my arm. I don't really like them as they don't always work. I do think airbags are generally worthwhile. Biggest part of mine is the placement of the pacemaker
LVSteve
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They could do with attaching your exemption to your plate, they way they do with CCWs here in NV.
Our '19 Tiguan has it, don't like it one bit as it's not perfect by any stretch. The wife usually drives the thing and she's complained more than once how jerky it is sometimes. Whenever I drive it it's automatic for me to turn it off.
As a side note I was reading how to permanently disable it. It's actually pretty easy to do seeing as it's just a wire to the battery. Unplug the wire and done. However, after further research I decided just to hit the button instead. The EPA has a very long reach when it comes to messing with this stuff. Just ask anyone who's been busted for diesel "tune-ups" or performance enhancements in gas vehicles...
As a side note I was reading how to permanently disable it. It's actually pretty easy to do seeing as it's just a wire to the battery. Unplug the wire and done. However, after further research I decided just to hit the button instead. The EPA has a very long reach when it comes to messing with this stuff. Just ask anyone who's been busted for diesel "tune-ups" or performance enhancements in gas vehicles...
LVSteve
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It's not just the EPA, it can be your state that gives you issues. Thanks to the number of people 'rolling coal' in NV and the geography of the Vegas Valley, it costs me over $100 to smog my AWD diesel SUV as it must be done on an all-wheel rolling road, of which there is precisely one in Clark County. Only certain RWD or FWD diesels can be done on a two-wheel rolling road, and fortunately my BMW is one of them. You should see the VW Jetta diesel owners going for orbit when told their FWD car has to have a $100+ smog test.
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My wife got this for her Grand Cherokee. It "remembers" the setting on the auto start button. Expensive fix. Easy install.
My wife got this for her Grand Cherokee. It "remembers" the setting on the auto start button. Expensive fix. Easy install.
I know in MT not wearing a belt is a secondary offense. They can pull you over for something else and write you up for a belt too but can't pull you over for just the belt.
Years back in NY state that was the way the law was written. A few years later they changed it to valid reason to pull you over. More money for the state that way!
muddocktor
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I got a question for you folks that have an auto start stop vehicle and driving in town in the summer. When your car comes to a stop like at a stop light and the engine shuts down, does it kill the air conditioning compressor? Because if that is so, it's a definite no go for me, living down here in soggy bottom Louisiana. During summer time we have daytime temps in the mid 90s to 100 degree, with a butt load of humidity to boot. My 17 Colorado doesn't have that AS&S junk and my daughter's 18 Silverado doesn't have it either. I know the compressor on both those vehicles are run by a serpentine belt that stops when the engine shuts off.
LVSteve
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What happens is that the AS&S system detects if you have the A/C on and what the outside temperature is. What happens is that it either keeps the motor running, or only stops it briefly.
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I agree its NOT bothersome. You hardly feel it and the car runs fine.
When your starter dies a month past warranty, and you need a towtruck and have to pay the bill, then maybe you will understand that government nannies are not the right thing to have.
As far as the government is concerned, no expense should be spared to save a gallon of gasoline. If it ends up costing a consumer $500 in future repairs to save a gallon, that's okay, because it's good for the planet. Meanwhile, the elites that push this fly around the globe in their Gulfstream jets.
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Thanks for answering my question, Steve. I doubt it will stop the motor much in the middle of the day around here then during summer. I usually keep the thermostat set at 65 and on recirc in my truck unless it's cloudy during the summer months just to stay ahead of the heat. Still it's yet another "feature" I personally have no use for. Just something else to break.
I know this much for a fact. If I didn't like auto stop start, I would not buy a vehicle with it
For the cost of a new car or truck you could buy a 20 year old one, have a completely rebuilt motor and transmission with warranty installed. New radiator, shocks, ball joints, U joints, new upholstery and a paint job. Or you could do like I did and buy 2 Nice luxury cars with around 100,000 miles on them and have enough left over to buy half a dozen more if one has a serious break down.
For the cost of a new car or truck you could buy a 20 year old one, have a completely rebuilt motor and transmission with warranty installed. New radiator, shocks, ball joints, U joints, new upholstery and a paint job. Or you could do like I did and buy 2 Nice luxury cars with around 100,000 miles on them and have enough left over to buy half a dozen more if one has a serious break down.
LVSteve
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I guess the standing charges and costs must be a lot less than we suffer here in NV. Our insurance rates are steep in the Vegas area, and registration fees are based on the original MSRP of the vehicle and a depreciation formula. It's not hard to run up a registration bill of $1000 on a single vehicle here.
The system in the 2018 BMW X3 felt cumbersome. The car rattled on restart.
My 2018 Cadillac XT5 wa much smoother. The system on our new XT6 is smooth enough that it's not worth worrying about. I just ignore it.
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My 2018 Cadillac XT5 wa much smoother. The system on our new XT6 is smooth enough that it's not worth worrying about. I just ignore it.
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2023 has a switch next to the 4wd/awd/2wd switch next to the emergency brake.
Here if a vehicle is over 11 years old you can pay $87.50 and get forever plates that never need renewed. I haven't renewed plates for years. Because I don't have a bank loan and I can replace either of my Lincoln Town cars with another one from the early 2000s with around 100,000 miles for around $4-5000, I only carry liability insurance. The last one I bought I got for $2700 cash and all it needed was 1 window regulator ($50 and 1/2 a day) It had 110,000 miles on it and it came with a full sized spare plus 4 mounted snow tires. Couple moving to assisted living and bought it from their son. It is basically my spare car. My main one I got for 4K with 110,000 and it now has 160,000 and still runs excellent as the people who bought that type of car maintained them, and didn't abuse them. Heated leather seats, heated mirrors, multiple CD deck, +tape. all controls on steering wheel for stereo heat etc. Huge trunk and 23 mpg at 80mph in comfort. I have my eyes open for another.
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This device will work and is easy to hook up. It does cost $99 but for me it is worth every cent. I got one for my Jeep and another one for my Ford
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"I got a question for you folks that have an auto start stop vehicle and driving in town in the summer. When your car comes to a stop like at a stop light and the engine shuts down, does it kill the air conditioning compressor?"
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Like much of life, it's more complicated than you might think. This youtube clip by the Car Care Nut examines the subject; the part about air-conditioning is at about 12 and 1/2 minutes in if you want to skip ahead:
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Like much of life, it's more complicated than you might think. This youtube clip by the Car Care Nut examines the subject; the part about air-conditioning is at about 12 and 1/2 minutes in if you want to skip ahead:
That is an excellent video!
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This guy has LOTS of excellent automotive videos on youtube. I always enjoy them and usually learn something new from them.
Glad you enjoyed it. He's sort of like the car guy equivalent of gunblue490's gun videos. Not a lot of loud, unnecessary music, and talks to you like an adult, not going for shock value or slamming things to show you how cool he is. Rare on youtube.
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My 2024 Santa Fe has it and have had serious " discussions" with service dept folks and they told me there are ways to disable it but will void warranty. So, with this " decision" I'll be back and tell them to disable it through the computer. Stupid thing almost causes wrecks as vehicle stumbles when trying to pull out into traffic. Good riddance is all I can say..
My wife asked me why the car keeps reminding her to step harder on the brake, I find that irritating I just hit the switch the minute I start the car. Its enough of a problem that when I changed out the battery on my 2019 Highlander for the first time since new they asked me if the car had auto start/stop, it apparently is enough of an impact to require a higher amperage battery. I'm going to look into permanently shutting it off.My F-150 has this little button on the dash that shuts it off. Unfortunately, you need to push it every time you start the vehicle.
I have discovered another work-around. If I apply just enough force on the brake pedal to keep the vehicle from moving, the stop/start function won't kick in. It will kick in if I apply more pressure. This comes in handy when I'm driving in heavy traffic or waiting to make a left turn.
I just put a start/stop eliminator in my 2020 Toyota Highlander. It works great. 4D Tech has a model specific video that is spot on. Yes, there are cheaper manufacturers out there, but the 4D tech looked to me like better quality, they have a legitimate website, and the videos I mentioned. It took about 10 minutes on my car as I had to partially disassemble the console and lift the shifter plate to access the connection. No problems and no more start/stop unless I want to use it. With the 4D Tech model, it can be turned on using the bottom if you decide to use it.
If you find the start/stop annoying, I highly recommend the eliminator and so does your battery, starter, etc.
If you find the start/stop annoying, I highly recommend the eliminator and so does your battery, starter, etc.
bigggbbruce
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My vehicles start with a 19xx, I don't know of what you are talking about.
Auto-Start..
Auto-Start..
My wife has a fifteen year old Toyota Camry Hybrid, its been driving me crazy for years because it shuts off at red lights, you get used to it. I bought a new Highlander in 2019 and it has the Auto Shut Off and it bugs me but I just got into the habit of hitting the button on the left of the console to shut that feature off. When I bought a new battery for the car earlier this Spring they asked me if it has that feature, which requires more amperage due to continually restarting the vehicle. This led me think about all the unnecessary wear and tear on the starter, etc. I hit the button....I like the other stuff like back up camera, warning systems, changing lane warning, etc. It will even put up a notice of a cup of coffee if you cross the line more than two times...
'24 Crosstreks have it. Took less than two weeks for me to install a $99 Ebay part into a brand-new car to kill the auto start/stop. The good news is that the part works. Would have paid $500 for it.
While we are at it, what does everyone think about paying monthly fees to use the remote-start feature in new cars?
I found a way around that too.
While we are at it, what does everyone think about paying monthly fees to use the remote-start feature in new cars?
I found a way around that too.
