Barred from concealed EDC at home

Some of you may remember this thread of mine from just about a year ago. http://smith-wessonforum.com/concea...s-self-home-invasion-updated-4-22-2016-a.html.

This man lived in a fairly nice part of town, catercorner from a high end restaurant, lots of lighting and not a high crime area. He was older, about 80, if I remember correctly. Fortunately he was carrying even though he was at home, minding his own business.

I realize that he may have made some mistakes, but he is still alive.

Best Regards, Les
 
I usually carry at home because I pocket carry and when I go out, I don't want to go looking for it. I have a hard enough time remembering my cell phone, glasses and keys. I also have a couple of other guns at the ready around the house. I also have a couple of fire extinguishers around. I doubt I'll ever need the guns or fire extinguishers, but...well you've heard it before...
 
dlombard said:
#1, having a backup gun makes a lot of sense to me because if your primary gun goes down for any reason (fails during a trip to the range requiring a trip to the gunsmith) or you need to switch to another one because the one you're using has failed in the middle of an actual confrontation, NOT having it would be bad. 2nd, just because someone you live with has one doesn't mean it's yours. It's theirs and it's their responsibility to maintain control over it at all times including knowing where it is and preventing anyone who has not been expressly authorized to use it from doing so. Therefore, If you're going to have a backup gun, it can't be someone elses, right?

Last but not least, I've read about people who will EDC at home rather than hope they can get to the room with the gun in it in time if one (or more) assailants breach your windows or door, or (even more silly) hide one in every room. A full sized sidearm for OWB EDC at home isn't comfortable or always suitable (i.e., if you have company), so some people IWB EDC at home. Even if you might have a full-size firearm locked up bedside for when you aren't wearing it (sleeping in bed).

Do you? If so, how did you convince the person or people you live with the reasoning behind doing this?

I ask because I tried to have this conversation over the weekend and I got a lot of unexpected feedback. Like, "it's excessive" specially since it's just a two bedroom apartment, and like they're being policed in their own home. Reactions that struck me as very weird. I got questions like, "how many guns are enough?"

At the end of the day, while I am gonna have a spare, if these are the rules, then these are the rules and I'll follow them. But I was just shocked at the response my proposal to EDC at home received... We both have one, we've both gotten training, visit the range from time to time. I didn't think this was going to be that strange of a thing to want to discuss, but the reaction was pretty angry so I just wanted to share my story here and find out if anyone has had a similar experience and if they've ever come around?

What if your husband told you, "if you carry all day at home, I'm moving out."? Or wife for that matter?
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To your first point, it's obvious that if the "other person" you live with has a gun in the house they want to be able to defend themselves if need be...and so do you. In the event of an actual home invasion it won't matter if you shoot the intruder with the other persons gun. It happens all the time. The teen in Oklahoma didn't own the gun that he used to kill those 3 intruders. It was ruled self-defense and the issue never came up.

The explanation of your living situation is rather "murky", so it's difficult to give a solid answer. Is the other person your wife, roommate, or someone renting the second room in your place? The answer to that question makes a big difference in determining how best to handle the situation.

Personally, I carry at home, though I live (my wife and I) in an area with almost no violent crime. Still, the question "what are the odds..." is irrelevant to me. The REAL question is - Is it possible that I could be a victim? To me it's no big burden to have my shield 9mm on my hip (or the table beside me), but if I am the unlucky one that the invader breaks in on, and I'm not able to get to my *off body* firearm quick enough....THAT could result in a big burden for my family.

There is a video I saw of a home invasion where the victims had friends visiting and they were sitting at the kitchen table having dinner. They were conscientious enough to have internal security cameras AND a HD firearm in the next room. None of that helped them when two unarmed intruders came in through the door wall screen and proceeded to beat both couples to death before robbing them. They never had a chance to get to their gun. What are the odds? Who cares. The possibility is why I carry at home.

Perhaps showing that to your friend might soften their stance on in home carry.

Good luck!
 
I look at it kinda like wearing seatbelts in a car just going to the grocery near by. Chances are good I won't need them, but in that one in a whatever chance that I do need them I won't have time to put them on, and I'll sure be glad I had them buckled.
 
BE Mike said:
I usually carry at home because I pocket carry and when I go out, I don't want to go looking for it.
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On the flip side, I'd have to put a Post-it note on the front door, bathroom, refrigerator or computer keyboard to remind myself to disarm everytime I walk in the house. My method of carry is unobtrusive and I simply don't notice it through the day. When I walk in the house it's not like I feel the need to disarm myself from a bothersome carry gun... it simply isn't an issue on my mind.
 
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My wife and I had this discussion a long time ago. I told her that I carry because I care about her safety, which is true, and because I believe that it is a God given mandate that we are to be good stewards of all that he has entrusted to us, her primarily, and personal property a distant second. This is the same reason that I also carry in church, as a deacon, it is my calling and mandate to care for the personal needs of the church, security being one of those needs.

Since that discussion there has never been a problem.
 
I pocket carry both inside and outside the house, I just slip it in my pocket while I'm getting dressed in the morning and so far no one has raised any objections.

FWIW, I live in a nice and very quiet neighborhood and for a while a few family members thought inside carry was a little excessive right up until our neighbors experienced a recent home invasion where they were forced into their own bathroom and thought they were going to be executed (they all survived but I think their sense of security is gone for good). Once the news was out the same family members were very interested in what home security measures I had in place and no longer thought inside ccw excessive.

tx40d
 
As I sit here there are 2 loaded pistols handy, in the bedroom there is a model 36 in my wife's headboard and a Glock 21 in mine. My wife has an LCP in her purse I have on in my pocket when I leave the house. There is a pistol handy in the living room. Overkill?? perhaps. Last year 3 elderly people near here were murdered. The women belonged to my wife's Woman's Club.
I might be an old f--t but I ain't gonna be a victim.
 
You never know. Odds do not mean a thing.
I live alone, well not quite. The cats do not care if I carry in my home.
Last, Im not fond of any situation in which there might be a race for the gun.
Jim
 
What I find more odd than carrying at home is the concept of stashing several (presumably unsecured) guns throughout the house.

If you're doing that the odds are certainly against you because it's far more likely that those guns will be stolen from you in a burglary than used by you to defend yourself
 
WARNING, GRAPHIC:

I spent my last six years in law enforcement as a crime scene investigator. I saw first hand what can happen when people are not prepared. One that sticks out in my mind is an elderly woman who was left at home with her 2 year old grand daughter when her husband went to the store for some milk. As he left, he noticed two teens in the parking lot of the apartments. He waved and they waved back. When he returned home he found his wife dead in the living room with her throat cut twice and some of her teeth on the floor. The grand daughter had thrown up on her feet. The punks had smacked the little girl, too. They got nothing and left. They were eventually caught, but not until they had robbed a hotel and shot the clerk.

For the most part, my family appreciates the fact that I carry and they all know that I usually do. On several occasions, when they felt uncomfortable about a situation, they asked me if I was carrying. They assumed that I was, but wanted the reassurance.

Despite all the efforts of liberals, this is not a kinder and gentler world. I prefer to live life facing reality, rather than in the "wouldn't it be nice if...." world.
 
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Shark Bait said:
WARNING, GRAPHIC:

I spent my last six years in law enforcement as a crime scene investigator. I saw first hand what can happen when people are not prepared. One that sticks out in my mind is an elderly woman who was left at home with her 2 year old grand daughter when her husband went to the store for some milk. As he left, he noticed two teens in the parking lot of the apartments. He waved and they waved back. When he returned home he found his wife dead in the living room with her throat cut twice and some of her teeth on the floor. The grand daughter had thrown up on her feet. The punks had smacked the little girl, too. They got nothing and left. They were eventually caught, but not until they had robbed a hotel and shot the clerk.

For the most part, my family appreciates the fact that I carry and they all know that I usually do. On several occasions, when they have felt uncomfortable about a situation, they asked me if I was carrying. They assumed that I was, but wanted the reassurance.

Despite all the efforts of liberals, this is not a kinder and gentler world. I prefer to live life facing reality, rather than in the "wouldn't it be nice if...." world.
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This is certainly not my original saying...YOU are the first responder!!!!!
The back of our range shirts say..
Be Kind
Be polite
Be Alert
You May Have To Shoot The Next Person You See.
 
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