Beware Extended Warranties Waste Of Money

RussC

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I paid $25 for an extended warranty at Sam's Club for an HP notebook for my daughter. The warranty was 10% of the cost of the notebook which gave me 2 additional years. At 18 months (6 months into extended warranty) the screen went bad so I boxed it up and sent it to the address on the warranty. After several weeks I got it back with a note that the bad screen wasn't covered and from the letter basically nothing was covered that could go wrong with a notebook including hard drive going bad etc.

I called Sam's Club who talked me into the extended warranty and the manager informed me they have nothing to do with the extended warranties and it is backed by a third party.

After several calls to the store the manager finally ate it and refunded my money.

Moral of the story extended warranties are a cash cow that rip off consumers.

Russ
 
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Sorry you had a bad experience. I normally refuse them, too.

But my FIL had a different experience. He was a Sears man. Every appliance in his house was Sears, and you could be sure it was covered by their warranty. Sears sold it, they warranted it, and they came out and fixed it. That was back when they were a good company.

Along about 1970 (might have been 1870, I don't know) when we were getting married his freezer just quit one night. No noise or indication. A couple of days later it started to smell. That's a bad thing if you didn't know. So he called the local Sears store. Out they came to take a look. Yep, it was dead and needed a new compressor along with new food. So they sent out a clean up crew, bagged all the rotting food and carried it away for disposal, then cleaned the freezer. My MIL was happy so they apparently did a good job. The new compressor came in a couple of days later and they installed it, made sure it was working right. Then they gave them a check for the guessed at value of the contents. My MIL didn't complain about that, either, so I have to guess it was generous. Over the years they also fixed a bunch of other stuff. Sure, the warranty was expensive every year, but there were no worries.

Then the old freezer started making noise. So they immediately called Sears and they came back out. The verdict was they couldn't fix the thing again. So they asked him what he wanted them to do. They agreed upon a new freezer to just replace the old one. That same afternoon the Sears truck showed up. They offloaded it into the garage and turned it on full blast. They said the heavy lifter guys would be there in the morning. They hauled the new one down into the basement, pulled the old out out and pushed the new one in place and plugged the already cold freezer in. Then they transferred the goods over. Hauled the old one out to the truck and then gave my FIL the bad news. The maintenance fee on the new one was a bit higher than it had been on the old one. Nothing bad sounding, maybe $25 a year more. He paid it until he died with a smile.

So about 5 years ago my oldest son bought a fridge. He didn't bother with the extended warranty. It was expensive, about $1700. It died the month after it turned 1 year old. They wouldn't do a thing. He refused the warranty, so he didn't have one. They could fix it, but it would cost over a grand after all was said and done. He was pissed, but took the loss.

3 years ago we built a new home. Needed all new appliances. Sure I insisted we shop all the big box stores. My wife loves to shop, but when it came time to buy, she headed to Sears. All the stuff came from there. The most costly item was the fridge, and she'd heard and read great things about Sammy-sung. So she bought the one she liked at well over $2000. And she tacked on the extended warranty. And I expect her to keep it in force until she gets mad at the thing and wants a new one.

Yes, there are some rules of life. One is that if you buy the extended warranty find out who makes good on it. Cars are especially worrisome, since some die far from home. Be sure its the manufacturer that honors it. If you're buying appliances, make sure its not some 3rd party. You want the thing fixed right away, not in a month.

But even then there are pitfalls. A girl that worked for me in the early 90s had some problems commuting. She lived in a town called Falmouth. we often called it foul-mouth. It was a long commute, over an hour each way. And her car was junk. So I promoted her and gave her a nice raise because she was worth it (and had a nice ***). She went out and bought a new Corolla because Toyotas were the best cars and she'd get 5 or 6 years of trouble free travel. Sort of. But she drove a lot of miles, and within a few months she was racking up excessive miles. So I counseled her that she should go back to the dealer and get Toyota's extended warranty. Instead she answered a glossy mail ad for some aftermarket thing. She said it was just as good. Things went well for two years. But then the miles were adding up and went through the factory limit. Then a few months later it started making a noise. :( She took it in and discovered those cars had a problem (not advertised, go figure). The exhaust manifold had cracked, a common problem. So it was time to contact the 3rd party clowns. And they refused the repair saying it wasn't covered. She threw a fit, but it did no good. When she finally got around to reading the extended warranty she discovered it covered almost nothing. It was just a warranty in name only. She pouted for a while after that and was upset because I'd advised her to use the factory plan. It was OK because she was mad at me, too. And almost never faced me so all I saw was her backside. That was Debbie's good side.
 
Most "Extended Warranties" are insurance policies from an insurance company and are touted to be nearly 98% clear profit as they seldom ever pay off. Electronic gear is now so reliable you don't need one usually, why do you think most auto manufacturers now offer 10 year 100,000 mile warranties as standard, the auto is now very reliable. I don't believe in buying extended warranties. I can relate that my daughter in CO has a Mitsubishi large screen TV that is now about 14 years old, and it has been repaired (major parts replaced) 3 times under an extended warranty. She has gotten her monies worth.
 
The extended warranties cost more than the repairs. Sure, if you buy a $2000 fridge and it dies a year and a day after you take delivery you would have been money ahead to buy the warranty. There is a lot of profit in these plans. I usually ask how much the plan costs as that cost is a good indicator of how reliable the product is. (I think the extended warranty for my Taurus SHO was over $1200). I have bought a couple, but I usually turn them down.
 
I bought a new 1985 ford 4wd ranger. I bought the extended warranty. I had made just one pmt and the ex ran off with it and her new also married boyfriend (who didnt own a running vehicle) and big share of my gun collection. I was court ordered to even pay her insurance on it untill the divorice was final. For about 3 months of that I couldnt even locate her or our daughter. Finaly I was able to locate them and I stold the truck back. In those 3 or 4 months the truck was almost to the 12,000 miles factory warranty. When I stold my truck back I seen it hadnt even got its first service yet they had like 11,900 miles on it. The power steering unit was leaking so I took it to the dealer. I think it was a friday. He said cant get you in untill monday. I looked at the mileage and seen that I was almost kissing 12,000 miles. I knew it would be over 12,000 on monday but didnt even mention it to the service manager as I had the extended warranty. Monday they did the work and handed me the big bill. I handed him the extended warranty card and we had a problem. They showed me in fine print where you about had to use a magnifing glass to read that the warranty didnt cover any thing to do with leaks!
I would like to tell you I raised heck as I should have and won but I didnt. That was the very worst period of my life, I was sleepless, working 80 hours a week to eat and frankly probley out of my mind with so many problems you couldnt shake a stick at em, and just paid and let it go.
I figure a lot of people will have to settel accounts with me on judgement day! Ford, my ex,-----------I want compound intrest too!
 
Aloha,

The Toyota/Lexus extended warranties are 3rd party insurance company.

A friend bought his wife a new lexus with extended warranty. ALWAYS dealer serviced on time.

No claims at all. Expected to get full refund.

Had to Submit Proof of All service per manual.

DENIED, did Not meet service requirements.

Theirs were not the only ones. I understand Toyota and the insurance company are having a Legal disagreement.
Up in the air as of now.

In 2010, the Wife got a Toyota Tundra. Now out of regular warranty.
According to the saleman, our warranty says we get refunded ALL monies if not used.

Warranty Changed after we bought her truck.

Now, NO money is returned. They KEEP it ALL.

Better to blow the engine and tranny and make them install a new set.
 
Most experts advise against purchasing extended warranties...and I agree that for inexpensive items, it makes no sense. For very expensive items (which I know is a relative term...what is expensive to me may not be to you) I do think it's generally a good idea, but not necessarily from the retailer. My wife buys a warranty on the expensive electronics and appliances we purchase from SquareTrade, an independent warranty company. They are reasonable in price and have been worthwhile so far.

For example, when the Kindle first came out, the basic reader was $279. My wife bought me one, and also bought the warranty. Years later, I dropped my Kindle and cracked the screen...it still worked, but we were concerned that it might fail at some point, or the screen might fall out. She contacted SquareTrade to see if it was covered, and they said to send it to them...we expected to get a refurbished model of the same generation back. Instead, we got a check for $279! I bought a new basic Kindle reader for $79 (they have really come down in price) and spent the rest on books for it.

We have spent money on flat screen TVs and computers that we wouldn't want to have to pay the entire amount to replace now...so we have warranties on each of them. We don't buy warranties on our toaster or coffee maker.
 
yogibear, you are scaring me! We bought a toyota avalon new in 1997, august. I paid $1,600s for the extended warranty up this august. I may have a fight on my hands! I never used the warranty, and the car has very, very few miles as we only use it for road trips. I just went and checked the oddomiter. 58341 miles. That will be 10,000 a year. I will repost whether I get the money or a fight in a couple months.
 
Only once have I had an extended warranty pay off. (I don't buy them anymore.)

I think the big thing that people don't consider on extended warranties is that they are often (not always) transferable. Manufacturer warranties are, from what I've seen, never transferable - they apply to the original buyer only.

With a third party, transferable warranty, if you sell the item the buyer is still covered. This is not always the case though, so you should read the terms of the warranty carefully it you think you might sell it before the warranty is up.
 
They don't sell you extended warranties because they are your friend and care about saving you some repair costs. They sell them because they are a tremendous money maker.

My son works in the car business and they make next to nothing on the sale of the car but after the deal is made they sit you down with the F & I guy for a little upselling. They call his office "the bump room" That's where the real money is made.

If you calculate all the money saved by not ever buying warranty coverage you would have enough cash to replace anything that fails and then some.

I need a warranty for my last beer purchase. I bought it Saturday afternoon and it didn't even last till Sunday. :eek:
 
Thanks Guys for your wisdom.

Companies like the old Sears that serviced their product doesn't exist anymore.

Kenmore is a Whirlpool appliance marked up and Lowe's installers are not employees but independent contractors who change the Home Depot shirt for the Lowe's shirt when they pull up to your house.

Russ
 
They don't sell you extended warranties because they are your friend and care about saving you some repair costs. They sell them because they are a tremendous money maker.



If you calculate all the money saved by not ever buying warranty coverage you would have enough cash to replace anything that fails and then some.

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Correct! Larry
 
I normally do not buy extended warranties. Do to the cost when I bought my 61'' large screen HD TV I did relent and bought it.

All was fine till about a month before the extended warranty died. I lost one color and the picture was acting screwy at times. I called the # on the warranty paperwork and a repair guy came out diagnosed the problems said he had to order a few expensive parts.. A week later parts came in and he called me and made a appointment to come back. He fixed it up and then told me the cost of the parts and do to the fact I live out so far how much travel time for 2 visits would have cost. I came out WAY AHEAD on this transaction.

I did try to extend the warranty (more costs of course) as the company said they will extend in some cases, but alas I guess I cost them too much money so they did not extend. That TV goes wacko again as its now 6 years old I guess I will just go out and get a new one.
 
With extended warranties - it depends...we bought a large screen (36")HD TV from Costco a few years ago. When we were checking out, the cashier asked if we wanted to pay cash or put it on a charge card. My wife wanted to pay cash, but I said for them to put it on the (Costco) American Express card. The cashier really brightened up when I said that, and she mentioned that by putting it on the credit card we automatically received an extended warranty for free. The manufacturers warranty was for 1 year, and the free extended warranty was for 2 more years for a total of 3 years. 30 months later, the kids were watching the TV when it made a loud "pop" and a small circular hole appeared on the inside of the glass (except for the hole being on the inside of the screen, it looked like someone had shot it with a B-B gun). My wife figured we were screwed, but I remembered about the "free extended warranty" and dug up the paperwork.

We had to phone a number and take the TV into a local shop for evaluation. Within a couple of days, our local Costco called us to apologize for the problems with the TV, and that it could not be repaired. When I asked for our options, the manager said I could either get a full refund, or they would give us a new TV. When we came to the store, the manager explained they did not have a 36" TV in stock but he would give us a 48" TV as that was the next comparable sized TV in stock. Oh, not only was there no extra charge for the new, and larger TV, but they actually owed us some money as the price of TVs had actually gone down since we first purchased it. We did have to pay a few bucks as a "transfer fee", and we paid that gladly...with the credit card so we could again receive the free extended warranty.

Regards,

Dave
 
I never buy them. I have been told the sales people get an extra commission for selling the warranty that is why they push them so hard. Once buying a computer I had to tell one if he mentioned it again I'd walk out, he did, and so did I.
My FIL would buy one for a wheel barrow if they offered it!
Steve W.
 
My wife and I were both in car and major appliance businesses, believe me they are big money makers and the salesmen get a hefty commission for selling them, because they are almost free profit. They are called MAs for Maintenance Agreements. Even now when we go to a restaurant and the water tries to push the "special of the day" or an appetizer, we look at each other and both say "MAs". :D :D
 

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