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The only down side to leaving it with DA/SA capability is that if someone cocks the hammer there's no good way to lower it safely.
This probably won't be a problem for you, but if you let someone else shoot it, or when the gun gets passed on they won't know the problem.
To convert it to true DAO you need to grind the single action notch area off the hammer so that if you attempt to cock the hammer it can't catch in single action.
This probably won't be a problem for you, but if you let someone else shoot it, or when the gun gets passed on they won't know the problem.
To convert it to true DAO you need to grind the single action notch area off the hammer so that if you attempt to cock the hammer it can't catch in single action.
gnappi
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If it's done with a stop in the trigger or frame so it can't be cocked SA you get an action with no over travel. Over travel doesn't help accuracy.
Down side? none I can think of.
gnappi
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You wouldn't think it but it CAN be done... I was selling a custom PPC revolver once and while testing the gun (spurless) the potential dweeb owner pulled the trigger to cock it half way and grabbed the hammer to try to get it to cock, when it didn't (it had a trigger stop) he had an A/D (thankfully pointing downrange) when trying to decock it and whacked his left hand pretty good.
Remember they haven't made the perfect idiot yet but they are trying for the title every day!
I recently had a 60-9 "J" frame bobbed. Defensively speaking there is no down side to bobbing a hammer. The only reason someone would need to cock a hammer is bullseye shooting. For defense, you would never do this. The benefits to bobbing a hammer are, that the hammer won't catch on your clothing when you are drawing the weapon. If you do have it bobbed, have a competent gunsmith do it.
Why not just bob the hammer and forget about DAO? If it's your carry gun, no one else is supposed to be touching it anyway. Failing that, get another hammer and have that trimmed and modified to DAO so you can return the gun to original 'spurred' status.
shooter1911
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Used to be very popular. Not so much today. No disadvantages. Same as carrying 642,638, 340PD, etc. Becomes a pocket gun.
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I have carried revolvers concealed for 40 years and all of my carry revolvers: M-65, M-58, M-24 have spurless hammers...my EDC J is a 49.....the spurless hammers can be cocked to SA if you cycle the DA enough so that you can gain purchase on the top of the hammer with your thumb..I have seen some hammers that had grooves cut into the top just for that purpose...the SA issue is a " non issue" for me as the only revolvers I ever shoot SA are single actions or my dedicated hunting revolvers.....My carry guns have never been fired SA....I have trained for decades to shoot DA and that is going to be what happens if I have to pull and shoot.....Back in the 70's and 80's I despurred hundred's of carry guns for officers for their off duty guns.....I became a disciple of despurred hammers after a couple years of ruining jacket linings and ripping gashes into furniture and car seats.....as mentioned above they also make for a lot "cleaner" presentations when drawing from concealed. As far as making it DA only, that can be accomplished by a qualified gun smith or armorer. I did it for several guy's who wanted their guns that way...but it was never SOP for me.
I have carried revolvers concealed for 40 years and all of my carry revolvers: M-65, M-58, M-24 have spurless hammers...my EDC J is a 49.....the spurless hammers can be cocked to SA if you cycle the DA enough so that you can gain purchase on the top of the hammer with your thumb..I have seen some hammers that had grooves cut into the top just for that purpose...the SA issue is a " non issue" for me as the only revolvers I ever shoot SA are single actions or my dedicated hunting revolvers.....My carry guns have never been fired SA....I have trained for decades to shoot DA and that is going to be what happens if I have to pull and shoot.....Back in the 70's and 80's I despurred hundred's of carry guns for officers for their off duty guns.....I became a disciple of despurred hammers after a couple years of ruining jacket linings and ripping gashes into furniture and car seats.....as mentioned above they also make for a lot "cleaner" presentations when drawing from concealed. As far as making it DA only, that can be accomplished by a qualified gun smith or armorer. I did it for several guy's who wanted their guns that way...but it was never SOP for me.
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BCDWYO
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I'm also a fan of bobbed hammers for carry guns. I have four: a 2.5" model 66, a 3" model 65, a custom 2.5" model 581, and a 3" model 686.
BobR1
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You did not mention what you were thinking about bobbing, or I missed it.
I have a new SP101 that I am thinking about bobbing. It is a dual purpose revolver, Concealed Carry and BUG Match. Advantage of bobbing would mainly be so it has nothing to snag on clothing during the draw. NOTE: I have never had any issues with a hammer snagging clothing in 25 years of concealed carry. Disadvantage the wife might want to shoot it some, and she would probably cock it shooting snakes etc.
Bobbing can have one other Disadvantage. Most holsters with a Thumb Break or Retention Strap are designed to go over the hammer spur. So if you would ever need to have a higher degree of carry security in a holster of this type, you are out of luck with it bobbed. I have several Bianchi 5BHL holsters I keep around mainly for horse riding, hiking, and running around in the woods on my 4-wheeler or Ranger UTV. I carry my 4 inch Model 64 most of the time in the woods, so I would not consider bobbing it.
Just something you might want to consider before making a decision.
I do not remember reading about shooting through a coat pocket. A J Frame that is Pocket Carried in a Coat Pocket might in some unique situations need to be shot while still concealed in a pocket.
A hammer spur could definently be a problem in this situation.
I would come much closer to bobbing a J Frame or SP101, than a K or L Frame revolver.
Bob
I have a new SP101 that I am thinking about bobbing. It is a dual purpose revolver, Concealed Carry and BUG Match. Advantage of bobbing would mainly be so it has nothing to snag on clothing during the draw. NOTE: I have never had any issues with a hammer snagging clothing in 25 years of concealed carry. Disadvantage the wife might want to shoot it some, and she would probably cock it shooting snakes etc.
Bobbing can have one other Disadvantage. Most holsters with a Thumb Break or Retention Strap are designed to go over the hammer spur. So if you would ever need to have a higher degree of carry security in a holster of this type, you are out of luck with it bobbed. I have several Bianchi 5BHL holsters I keep around mainly for horse riding, hiking, and running around in the woods on my 4-wheeler or Ranger UTV. I carry my 4 inch Model 64 most of the time in the woods, so I would not consider bobbing it.
Just something you might want to consider before making a decision.
I do not remember reading about shooting through a coat pocket. A J Frame that is Pocket Carried in a Coat Pocket might in some unique situations need to be shot while still concealed in a pocket.
A hammer spur could definently be a problem in this situation.
I would come much closer to bobbing a J Frame or SP101, than a K or L Frame revolver.
Bob
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KLYDE
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Sent this back to the Factory for a DAO conversion and hammer bob. They did a great job but the wait was 8 months. Wait time on some of the big name shops may be less.
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Wee Hooker
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Worth noting is that there are different "degree's" of bobbing. You can grind the spur completely off or just take off the sharp protrusion. To each their own. Here is my 360 PD with a bobbed job. ( Done right on the revolver ( with great care.) I can still cock/decock but rarely do.
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