Bodyguard 2.0 Owners: Impressions after a few months?

[GnarlsR2]

I went to the range this morning to test some different ammo and put some more rounds through it. Before I went to the range, I did a “plunk test” with 4 different brands, none would pass. At the range the first round in the 10 round mag failed to feed after slapping the slide. It was a Hornady Custom XTP 90 gr. I went through 4 rounds each of Hornady Critical Defense FTX 90 gr., Sig Sauer V-Crown JHP 90 gr., Winchester POX1 Defender, and Bronze FMJ 90 gr. with no issues. My trigger finger was starting to sting after 2 mags. I have not experienced any trigger pain or discomfort in any other firearm I own. I have only had 1 failure to fire at about 500 rounds in my P365 Micro. It was a light strike which I had never seen before. I rechambered it and it fired. It was a MaxxTech 115 gr FMJ. Before cleaning the BG2.0 after the range visit today I did a plunk test with 5 different brands, they all passed.

Next range day I will put another 200 rounds of Federal HST JHP 99 gr, Magtech FMJ 95 gr, and Winchester FMJ 95 gr. I was really wanting the BG2.0 to become my primary pocket EDC. I am very disappointed. For now I’ll stay with my Sig P365 Micro. For my self defense weapon 1 failure is too much.

The photo from S&W website shows a designed trigger safety that is narrower than the trigger and it is recessed into the trigger face eliminating the trigger bite. MUCH better design!

 

[TwinV10]

For the life of me I don't know how a trigger safety as wide as the trigger itself could prevent "something" accidentally engaging the trigger causing an AD. Some object would have to engage the trigger but not the safety? And that will save you? Not likely....

 

[smoothshooter]

Overall, I’m very happy with mine.
I am going to clip a couple of coils off the magazine springs so I don’t have to use a magazine loader.

 

[Rider1300]

Lately I have been disappointed with my 2.0 Mine is a very early model purchased as soon as they were available and I now have 605 rounds through it.
The gun had the lips on the ramp to the slide which I polished off and I also polished the feed ramps as well.
The problem is on my last range trip I fired 40 rounds of ball ammo and got a failure to go into battery on the last round. I really love this gun but I feel I can’t trust it as a carry.
This week I plan on trying to send it back to the mother ship and see what they come up with.or, I will at least speak to a tech and see what they say.
This may sound crazy to some, but lately I’m thinking of reserving this gun for practice and buying another for carry if it passes my test for reliability . (200 flawless rounds of my carry ammo). If it doesn’t pass I will sell both

For sure it’s not a break in thing with 605 rounds through it already.

 

[kbm6893]

Lately I have been disappointed with my 2.0 Mine is a very early model purchased as soon as they were available and I now have 605 rounds through it.
The gun had the lips on the ramp to the slide which I polished off and I also polished the feed ramps as well.
The problem is on my last range trip I fired 40 rounds of ball ammo and got a failure to go into battery on the last round. I really love this gun but I feel I can’t trust it as a carry.
This week I plan on trying to send it back to the mother ship and see what they come up with.or, I will at least speak to a tech and see what they say.

For sure it’s not a break in thing with 605 rounds through it already.

I feel the same way. Maybe next summer if things improve, I'll pick one up. I'd rather buy something else for the purpose this gun fulfills right now.

 

[agksimon]

I went to the range this morning to test some different ammo and put some more rounds through it. Before I went to the range, I did a “plunk test” with 4 different brands, none would pass. At the range the first round in the 10 round mag failed to feed after slapping the slide. It was a Hornady Custom XTP 90 gr. I went through 4 rounds each of Hornady Critical Defense FTX 90 gr., Sig Sauer V-Crown JHP 90 gr., Winchester POX1 Defender, and Bronze FMJ 90 gr. with no issues.

The photo from S&W website shows a designed trigger safety that is narrower than the trigger and it is recessed into the trigger face eliminating the trigger bite. MUCH better design!

If you look at your chamber, I'll bet you'll see tool marks. I used a 10mm carbide impregnated dremel bit to polish the tool marks out and it now chambers any ammo put into it.

As for the narrow trigger paddle, I talked to customer service and he got back to me the next day and said every one that's left the factory has the wide paddle and the photo was not correct.

 

[GnarlsR2]

If you look at your chamber, I'll bet you'll see tool marks. I used a 10mm carbide impregnated dremel bit to polish the tool marks out and it now chambers any ammo put into it.

As for the narrow trigger paddle, I talked to customer service and he got back to me the next day and said every one that's left the factory has the wide paddle and the photo was not correct.

Hello agksimon,

Are tool marks in a chamber on a brand new gun normal?

I asked my local gunsmith and he said "not passing a plunk test doesn't mean anything". He's the same guy who told my low/left POI is "all me" and has nothing to do with the front and rear sights on my BG2.0.... he examined the gun. He has a condescending tone and appears to be one of those elite experts.

Wow... the photo on their website is extremely misleading! When I spoke to S&W Customer Service, the man implied that I would have to buy a new BG2.0 to get the different trigger shown on their website. He did not want to answer my questions and was not at all informative. As I learn more about S&W, I'm becoming more convinced they need a Trump-like resurrection. Two of my deplorable good friends and very experienced "firearm enthusiasts" suggested I put the BG2.0 back in it's box and forget about it... "chock it up to a bad experience".

 

[klowman]

If you look at your chamber, I'll bet you'll see tool marks. I used a 10mm carbide impregnated dremel bit to polish the tool marks out and it now chambers any ammo put into it.

As for the narrow trigger paddle, I talked to customer service and he got back to me the next day and said every one that's left the factory has the wide paddle and the photo was not correct.

Following...does anyone have any updates about a newer trigger? Ome that has a more narrow trigger safety and/or is recessed into the teigger?

If exists would certainly love to get the redesigned version.

I just bought mine yesterday at Sportsman's Warehouse in a shipment that had literally came in the day before - so I assume from whatever stock S&W is shipping out in early to mid November 2024 ...if that is considered getting an early or original version versus a more recent version.

It was also mentioned that the earliest versions had lips on the feed ramp, that the recoil spring had to be adjusted/snapped fully on etc...

Trying to determine what I have...

I don't think I have a recoil spring issue...put about 175 rounds thru it today with Zero issues. 25 of those were even the Hornaday American Gunner hollow points that some other poster said was giving then FTF/FTE issues.
100 rounds were Noesler 95g FMJ range rounds, and 50 of 95g Blazer FMJ's.

Anyhow, was happy with the performance and ergonomics of my new BG 2.0 on my 2nd day of ownership...then registered to this forum and starting reading all the threads and now having doubts if I made a smart purchase or not and if I have an earlier, defective model or a newer model with some of the bugs worked out...

 

[GnarlsR2]

Following...does anyone have any updates about a newer trigger? ... a newer model with some of the bugs worked out...

Geezzz klowman... you may have received an "upgraded" model.

From the S&W Customer Service contacts, the trigger in their photo apparently is not what they are selling. It's been about 4 months since the first release. Could S&W have fixed all their design flaws and improved their quality control?

 

[klowman]

Geezzz klowman... you may have received an "upgraded" model.

From the S&W Customer Service contacts, the trigger in their photo apparently is not what they are selling. It's been about 4 months since the first release. Could S&W have fixed all their design flaws and improved their quality control?

What I do know for sure, is I field stripped the BG 2.0 Saturday and gave it a quick cleaning, had no issues reassembling, and on Sunday put 175 round through with absolutely Zero issues...

Came home and broke it down again for a thorough cleaning and again no issues reassembling.

Even saw on 1 person's YouTube review that he had issues with the 12 rd mag and had to disassemble and clip off a protruding piece of plastic off of the follower...but my 12 rd mag worked great.

So I don't know...I was 100 percent happy with it until I got home and starting reading all the BG 2.0 threads...lol

 

[GnarlsR2]

Hello klowman,

Obviously S&W fixed the well-known 12 round mag follower issue. I am very curious how or if they fixed the spring and guide rod cap issue. Is it possible to post a photo of the end of the guide rod where the spring sits against the guide rod end cap?
As a design reference I’ve attached photos of my P365 Micro guide rod and spring. You can clearly see Sig designed a thin flat washer between the end of the spring and the guide rod end cap. There is no way the end of the spring can slip out to interfere with the guide rod properly seating against the end of the slide as it does with the BG2.0

 

[jwlrymkr]

Best pocket pistol I own!

This has the best the smoothest shooting, most accurate pocket pistol I have ever owned! I absolutely love this little gun. It might only be a 380, but I can make very accurate shot placement with it. I own several S&W pistols and revolvers. This is my favorite!

 

[ladder13]

I have had zero problems with my early issue 2.0 other than it shoots a little left. I didn’t assume I was buying a target gun.

 

[klowman]

Hello klowman,

Obviously S&W fixed the well-known 12 round mag follower issue. I am very curious how or if they fixed the spring and guide rod cap issue. Is it possible to post a photo of the end of the guide rod where the spring sits against the guide rod end cap?
As a design reference I’ve attached photos of my P365 Micro guide rod and spring. You can clearly see Sig designed a thin flat washer between the end of the spring and the guide rod end cap. There is no way the end of the spring can slip out to interfere with the guide rod properly seating against the end of the slide as it does with the BG2.0

Here you go.

 

[snuf]

Looks different than mine. An extra coil at the end maybe?

 

[GnarlsR2]

Here you go.

So it looks like S&W has flattened the end of the spring and the first coil that sits up against the guide rod cap is very flat now. That correction will allow the spring to seat into the collar inside the end of the slide.

Thank you for the photos.

 

[klowman]

So it looks like S&W has flattened the end of the spring and the first coil that sits up against the guide rod cap is very flat now. That correction will allow the spring to seat into the collar inside the end of the slide.

Thank you for the photos.

Yes, compared to the pics from other forum members, seems like the last 1/2 to 3/4 of the coil twist is flattened out.

 

[yanici]

I believe the recoil spring assembly pics are from a Sig product. Haven't seen any pics of improved S&W RCS assembly.

 

[nam6869usmc]

My BG 2.0 has a date 9/17/2024 and I haven't had any RSA issues. This is what my spring look like.

 

[SeniorShooter]

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