Booze and guns

[Bkreutz]

I keep hearing stories about how everyone in Vietnam was either drunk or high (or both). That might have been true for rear echelon POGs, but in combat units, there was a mantra. "You get high, you die". No mention of by whom. One doesn't last long being impaired while on a mission. R&R and in camp time was different (H, I went to Australia on R&R one time and don't remember any of it).

 

[Onomea]

Afraid to ask what #1 is!

Oh, the #1 social event is the same everywhere.

 

[Onomea]

...that was for the hired girls...

...Kitty owned the place...

'Course Matt Dillion, United States Marshall, was nursing the same beer in the Long Branch through 17 seasons or whatever it was. (And not sure he ever made it past first base with Miss Kitty either...)

 

[Kiwi cop]

Many years ago I took part in a work study group. We would have a drink, beer, wine or top shelf, then10 minutes later we would drive around a simulator race track before having a breath test. I found out that I was buzzed off my face well before I reached the legal drink/drive limit. Now I have an even lower tolerance to alcohol.

The first weekend of May here is duck shooting opening weekend. For decades the preparations involved rum and beer in the mai mai (what we call a duck blind). Every year there would be a duck shooter shot by a drinking/hunting buddy. Having said that, in this country there is a binge drinking culture.

In the last few years alcohol harm has been a high profile item. This year, for thefirst time in memory, no-one was hurt on opening morning. In fact the season was over 2 months in when the first hunting accident of the duck season occurred.

 

[sigp220.45]

...that was for the hired girls...

...Kitty owned the place...

If you listen to the old Gunsmoke radio shows, where William "Cannon" Conrad plays Matt, there are some fairly risque episodes where Kitty takes a customer or two "upstairs" in the Long Branch.

 

[Arm]

I am a member of a half dozen gun clubs, with the exception of one that I am no longer a member, there is no alcohol on the club grounds. One club ( which I quit) has a full bar in the club room, seems there were few restriction on it's use. Had I known this in advance I would never have joined. Bad mojo.
Oh, yes I enjoy a good bourbon after dinner, just not handling any firearm. Just my thoughts.

 

[handejector]

I have eliminated back flips from my dance moves, and I no longer break up fights in bars.
Everyone should feel much safer now.

 

[500SNW]

I don't think guns and alcohol are a good mix either. But if the highest law enforcement agency in the land, the FBI, isn't going to lead by example by disciplining the Denver Agent...well, that's hardly setting a good example for the rest of us. Last I heard, he was given the green light to begin carrying again. AFAIK he has, or will get off with zero charges.

Dancing FBI agent who accidentally shot man in Denver bar allowed to carry his gun again, judge rules – The Denver Post

 

[M29since14]

I tend to agree with RPG, though I do not lock up all my guns at home just because there is a drink with dinner, nor do I necessarily leave all guns at home if I might have a drink at dinner out. I absolutely will leave any gun club, or quit a hunting party, if alcohol is present before or during.

RPG is entirely entitled to his opinion, and to offer his advice based on his own experiences, which anyone can take or leave as they choose, IMNSHO. No need to get up about it if his views and your own don't match up perfectly. For the most part, I think the OP makes a point that should be mentioned more often, at least in my neck of the woods.

 

[keithpip]

Booze + Gunpowder

Growing up in upstate New York in the 1970's I couldn't wait for the hunting season to start in October. I would buy a hunting license and pick up a copy of the NY EnCon hunting regulations. Somewhere within its pages there was always a drawing of a bottle of booze (the bottle always had the triple X's on it). The booze was being poured into a pile of gunpowder. The fumes coming off this mixture spelled "TROUBLE". That stuck with me all these years. Guns come out, cork stays in the bottle.

Keith

 

[jakebrake]

Booze and firearms do not mix in my opinion. Not at all.

never have, and never will.

 

[jakebrake]

I have been known to drink at the target range.

coffee...black.

 

[sigp220.45]

I don't think guns and alcohol are a good mix either. But if the highest law enforcement agency in the land, the FBI, isn't going to lead by example by disciplining the Denver Agent...well, that's hardly setting a good example for the rest of us. Last I heard, he was given the green light to begin carrying again. AFAIK he has, or will get off with zero charges.

Dancing FBI agent who accidentally shot man in Denver bar allowed to carry his gun again, judge rules – The Denver Post

The Denver judge's ruling has no effect on what the Bu will do to this guy. I'm sure he is still rubber-gunning it until the OPR investigation is done. I still believe he will be fired. If he is convicted of a felony (as charged) he will definitely be fired. The Bureau eats it's young.

If you know what his BAC was, I'd love to hear it. He is a former Army officer and a graduate of Jerry Fallwell's Liberty University so he may not have been drinking at all. At any rate, the cops know the outcome of his blood tests, and those results had no effect on his charges.

Also, he wasn't a Denver agent. He was a Washington Field Office (WFO) agent, on vacation in Denver. I was a Denver agent.

 

[usmc2427765]

It is unacceptable to operate a motor vehicle with ANY alcohol in your system. Just my humble opinion after 37 years of observing the carnage on our highways.

 

[labworm]

Purchased my first firearm in 1986, I was 40 years old.

Gave up alcohol the same year, so I can't make the mistake of drinking and handling a firearm. (Dry for 32 years.)

Enjoy the brewski's but: (Play it safe).

 

[bigmtnman]

Drinking and guns ..yeah baby !!

I have acquired quite a few guns due to sipping Jameson while cruising around Gunbroker.com ..... "Oh yeah...NICE gun...want THAT ". Just like like "the girls get prettier at closing time" ....With the booze...The guns look better, are priced more reasonably, and you really REALLY ought to bid on THAT !!