Choosing the Right Glue

jamned

SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
Joined
Jul 6, 2005
Messages
288
Reaction score
157
Location
Central Michigan
I have a colt comm 22 that was dropped, & the grip frame broken. Some sort of pot metal, then plated or painted. Tried a couple epoxies, but didn't stick. Also can the gold type finish be replicated?
 

Attachments

  • Colt Grip Frame 001.JPG
    Colt Grip Frame 001.JPG
    77.5 KB · Views: 162
  • Colt Grip Frame 002.JPG
    Colt Grip Frame 002.JPG
    68.9 KB · Views: 135
Register to hide this ad
I have never had luck repairing pot metal castings. It has been one of the few times that JB Weld has let me down. I would love to know if there is a solution for the next time i break a piece if it.
 
Last edited:
I'd use JB weld but I wouldn't be just gluing the bare broken edges to each other. JB is great for structural builds; not so great as a "glue" between two flat surfaces.

I'd swiss cheese the area on either side of the break and remove some of the original metal where it made sense to do so, to be filled with the JB. Maybe drill some opposing holes in the surfaces of the top part to allow JB to fill them and create "pins" made of JB. The idea would be to WRAP the bottom break, like with a doughball, then file/grind/reshape the doughball to the original shape. The original gold pot metal would not be covered with JB where it was exposed to view with the grips assembled.
 
Drill slightly oversize holes in the break faces to accommodate pins, then fill the holes with good two-part epoxy, install the pins, and glue the whole mess together.

Small diameter screws will work as well, and the threads will provide additional grip.

Good taste dictates that you remove the gold finish entirely... ;)
 
I believe those .22 Colt Commemorative Revolvers had Cast Aluminum Alloy Frames. I've got a matched set of Bat Masterson's myself. I would seek out a Professional Welder who is proficient in welding Aluminum Alloy's. A proficient Welder should be able to repair and make the gun serviceable again.

I think a Glue is a waste of time if you intend to shoot the gun. Even just as a wall hangar - glue probably would not last too long.
 
I tried Gorilla two part epoxy, did not stick. Purchased a new grip frame from Numrich, it's cast aluminum, but not finished, just rough cast. Needs polishing & then a finish. Or maybe just leave it as a glossy Al finish. It does not fit right, grips will need to be reshaped, that's a bummer.
 
Last edited:
JB Weld for sure. You'll have to trim it up with a metal file; it's that good when it sets. :)
 
WITH GLUE...

I don't believe I'd ever be able to trust it again. +1 for pinning, then welding it & the grips should cover up the area. Kinda curious how it broke the frame in 2 places with a 22 caliber in the first place, using it for a hammer?
 
Last edited:
Drill slightly oversize holes in the break faces to accommodate pins, then fill the holes with good two-part epoxy, install the pins, and glue the whole mess together.

Small diameter screws will work as well, and the threads will provide additional grip.

Good taste dictates that you remove the gold finish entirely... ;)

Yep.......way to do it.
 
Grip frames

I could be wayyyy off on this but- your photo looks very much like the brass grips frames I have installed, several, on my Ruger single actions. I have an extra grip frame that is unused. I would be willing to bet to could fit it to your gun. Could very well be wrong on this, but were you close I would give it a try. Brownells sells the grip frames, or did. I am not trying to sell you mine, but I would love the challenge.:D It does take a lot of fitting and trying and fitting again. All work is hand done except final polish. If it is important to you, you might give it a try. Here is one of the ones I have done. Good Luck!!

medium800.jpg
 
Last edited:
I would try first scuffing up the edges to be joined with rough sandpaper to give the adhesive something to hold on to. Clean off with acetone then try using green loctite.

But IMHO I think your frame is no bueno
 
Last edited:
Colt?

Mildly disconcerting that Colt would use die cast zinc (pot metal) for a grip frame. That is not brass. Brass does not brittle fracture with crystalline surfaced fracture plane. No glue will make an adhesive bond to those joints. If the grip frame is not spring out of alignment an easy fix is at hand. As others suggest above, drill holes in the fracture plane of both parts, use short sections of small diameter all-thread to reinforce, run an undersized tap in the holes to provide an anchor profile, and glue together with JB weld or any other two component epoxy. The repair should be stronger than the original. The zinc has been anodized and dyed. Scuffs can be touched up with dye, but won't completely disappear.
 
While I think JB Weld is the all time best and strongest 2 part Epoxy glue (use it all the time), I do not think it's a viable fix in this case - at least for any length of time if the gun is to be shot. Welding is permanent and should withstand shooting IMO.
 
Back
Top