Concerns with my "new" 4516-1 (advice needed)

[Arik]

I own both HK and Glock. Like them both. The only problem I ever had with a Glock was early on in my gun owning days. Had a 23 that had major FTE so I sold it. Years later I bought a HK USP 40 and had no problems so I bought a G22 and the thing runs like a sawing machine. While it's possible that I had a bad gun back then, I'm thinking it was my fault. Newer to handguns and new to that caliber. I'm thinking I was limp wristing or otherwise had a bad hold

 

[Rifleman762]

Okay, another update. My slideplate assembly came in, and it wasn't the black one that was pictured. It looked like a direct replacement for the broken one, so that was good. I also recieved my flatewire spring.

Question. With the flatwire spring, the gun should be okay to shoot without the bushing in the "recoil spring tunnel" correct? I haven't shot this gun yet, and would love to be able to shoot it while I'm waiting for the bushing (to go with the factory dual springs).

 

[BLUEDOT37]

Question. With the flatwire spring, the gun should be okay to shoot without the bushing in the "recoil spring tunnel" correct?

Yes, since it has a slightly larger diameter, flat contact surface & is one-piece. I'd eye-ball the fit of the spring in the tunnel before final assembly but it should be a satisfactory fit. Let us know how it shoots.

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[18DAI]

So, will we get a range report? Regards 18DAI

 

[BMCM]

Question. With the flatwire spring, the gun should be okay to shoot without the bushing in the "recoil spring tunnel" correct?.

Yup, it'll be just fine. The nature of the closed coil end fills the role of the bushing to keep your guiderod where it ought to be. You'll have no trouble running ti that way. By the way, what weight did you get? My 4516-1 prefers the #20 probably because my meddling made the slide lighter.. I usually recommend starting with the #18 for a stock gun. Mind how your brass ejects and bump it up to #20 if you're launching empties into the neighboring county.

Cheers
Bill

 

[Rifleman762]

Okay, so today I finally got a chance to hit the range with my 4516-1. Fired about 100 rounds, no malfunctions or problems of any kind. The 20 lb spring seems to be working perfectly.

Accuracy was pretty good, and the recoil didn't seem much worse than my 4566tsw. Overall, I think this will be a great little duty weapon.

Right now I'm just waiting for a bushing to arrive from BMCM (thank you sir!) and I'll try running it with the stock springs. Assuming those work well, it'll be ready for carry.

 

[mscampbell2734]

Looks good. Enjoy and be safe

 

[18DAI]

Rifleman762 how did it all work out? Regards 18DAI

 

[flagman1776]

My duty 645 was like a magnet for people's eyes. Practically glowed in the dark...

 

[J. W.]

Hi Rifleman762, YES. The agency we qualify with, the XXXXXX (deleted upon 2nd thought ) Police Department, went to the Glock 30SF as agency issue, to uniformed patrol and detectives a few years back. 2011-2012? One size fits all, evidently.



It would be strange until one considers that the chief <NOT a "gun guy"> was not happy that two female recruits, a female supervisor and a couple of WD's could not post qualifying scores (70) with the Glock 21.



The Glock 21 is still authorized and some of the patrol officers who have some height and weight (and can shoot! ) still carry it. Though all the participants at last qualification I attended were shooting G30's. That class was mostly new officers and some "administrators" with two female officers thrown in.



Thanks for the info on the G30. Interesting. I will pass that on to a few friends who use it. Best regards, 18DAI

That's crazy! What a horrible choice for a "one size fits all" weapon. The 19 or 23 would have been a better option, as the smaller grips radius would be more likely to fit officers with smaller hands.

 

[Rifleman762]

Well, ran into a little problem with my 4516-1. The little trigger play tab broke clean off (and jamed up my trigger). I'm a little ticked off, even though S&W will repair it for free... it's going out of service for probably 2 months. Thank God it went down at the range, and not in a gunfight in an alley somewhere.

Those trigger play springs or tabs are the only problem I tend to have with 3rd gen smiths... makes me wonder if it's a design flaw. I've had my 4506 in to S&W twice to have the trigger play tab fixed, but this is the first time I've had one completly break off. Good thing I shoot a heck of a lot... and carry a back up gun.

I hate to say it, but this whole experience has got me considering transitioning to my 1911.

 

[18DAI]

Sorry to read about your troubles with the 4516 Rifleman762.

Id contact the LE rep at S&W .IIRC the CHP 4006TSW's do not have trigger play springs. A modification they specified when ordering them. Perhaps S&W can modify your 4516, since it is an LE pistol. But they will probably just tell you to buy an m&p.

Or maybe contact a CHP armorer to see what they may be able to do. Good luck! Regards 18DAI