So your argument that I'm 'fearful' of a stereotype of an open carrying firearms owner is supported by throwing out a stereotype? Did you read what you wrote before you posted it?
I'm not the one throwing rocks at those who disagree. Again, I said if it's legal and you want to do it, fine. But I do disagree because of some very valid reasons. Here's one....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbfxRQRQOTY
Yes, folks that go into a Rep's office in the Texas capitol and scream "TYRANT!" and create such discord that the Capitol Troopers have to be called, yes, they are morons. Idiots, stooges and imbeciles. I chose my words correctly.
No one who supports the 2nd A can support chokeholes like these hammerheads or their pathetic, disgusting, blowhard behavior.
And as far as being a "stereotypical person from Austin", as you categorized me, I'm about 2500m to the right of Rush Limbaugh - I can't even stand G.W.Bush, but only because he was
NOT conservative enough. I am no liberal and the bile in my throat every time I see Herr Obama demagoguing on TV is my witness.
I am extremely conservative, lived in Austin because of a State of Texas assignment, am staunchly pro-NRA and think Ted Cruz isn't aggressive enough in his attacks on the libs who are trying to tear this nation apart.
What blows me away is despite such a pedigree that many folks on here share, OC proponents just cannot accept that there are folks who DO NOT think someone walking around in a crowded urban area packing a Glock on his hip or a Bushmaster on his back is a bright idea. And these same folk who disagree on OC also very clearly understand conservatism, understand the Constitution, understand the 10th Amendment and completely support firearms ownership without any Federal intervention. I promise you that I undertand the concept of 'Republic' very, very well. But at the same time people live in a community and don't want offensive behavior shoved in their faces camouflaged as "my rights!"...
I wonder how many supporters of OC who think of their public wearing of guns causing alarm to other citizens as being an 'acceptable' trade off for their 'rights', would be the same folks who, when pulled up at a traffic light next to an Escalade on 28" rims full of thugs playing hard core rap at 500 decibles with the windows down, staring at them, would say to themselves "They shouldn't be allowed to do that, they don't have the right to cram their loud music down my throat and disturb my peace!"
Funny how the "my rights!" arguments only go one way so many times, but not concerning my perspective. You can have 10,000 guns, shoot 'em, wear 'em, have them handy and keep 55 reloads in your pants, if you feel the need. I'm all for it. But saying that a thin t-shirt or a light jacket should cover that piece is certainly NOT taking away anybody's rights. It's a reasonable compromise that makes for a polite society and respects everyone's temperament. OC says " forget that noise, gimme my way!" How diplomatic.
See, the big problem with the OC argument is that is really is NO Constititional grounds for it, none. It doesn't exist. The state of Texas granted authority for it to occur, but no where, NO WHERE, does it read in the Constitution that you have the right to Open Carry. Period. Finding the right to OC in the 2ndA is no different that the Supreme Court finding the right to abortion in the 14thA. It doesn't exist. It is being invented as we go along for some just to it get their way. I'm willing to bet a 72 oz. steak dinner at the Big Texas that if OC went up for public vote on the ballot, the results would not be the big "southern culture supports it" blow out you think it'd be. I haven't met one person who thinks it a great idea since it came up, at best I met a few that say "Well, if it passes, I guess it's ok..." Pretty tepid response total on the curve there, although granted that's hardly a scientific test.
Bottom line, wear OC if you want and argue for it all day long, but don't call a pig a horse and tell the rest of us that it's fine to ride home on. You want to accuse folks of being arrogant, narcisstic or elitist? Because they simply disagree? OK, but don't' get mad and play the victim when you're called on it. Because the facts are you might not always be right just because you have an NRA sticker on your truck or you post on gun forums. Supporting guns doesn't mean one is always right about guns.
Truth is, intelligent people who clearly understand federalism, the 2ndA and 'republicanism' just don't relish the idea of wannabe "cowboys" endangering their wives, kids or friends because they insist on being a ridiculous target so they can crow about non-existent rights that don't appear in our founding documents.
I hope nothing really horrible ever really does happen after OC goes into effect - I wish no ill will on anyone. But it took 87 years of commercial flight before some idiot realized you could hijack a plane and fly it into a building, so it may take awhile before some poor OC gets outflanked by two or three street trolls, get his head subdivided by a pipe and relieved of his Elmer Keith nickel plated memorial Model 29. And the first thought of the first OC to get de-gunned, if he lives through it, is very likely going to be "Man, I wish they hadn't seen me with that thing on..."
I grant folks disagree, I grant that intelligent people can make a counter argument. I grant that maybe no one will die in the first few years. But failing to recognize the legitimacy of the counter-OC argument does make one wonder if legitimate discussion can be held in firearms circles in this day and age.
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