FBI Load and Over-Penetration

[Stu Honea]

The wife decided today that she handles the FBI load better in rapid fire than the 135+P Gold Dot,and it doesn't spank her hand like the Gold Dot. Her choice,but the difference showed on her targets.
I'll echo Erich's statement with a new take on it from a reformed poker player.
Placement is King,penetration is Queen,and anything extra is the Jack of Diamonds. I do love the Gold Dots though.
Woa is me.I hate mightily to clean off lead.

 

[Florida J Frame]

Erich,
If you were limited to carrying a 642 as primary in a typical urban setting what round would you choose? I'd also like to hear your thoughts on the best choice for a Ruger LCP.

 

[Erich]

Nowadays I carry either the Winchester PDX-1 .38 Spl +P 130-gr or the Speer Gold Dot +P 135-gr JHPs in my snubs, on advice of armorers and other folks who've done a lot of shooting with them. I also would feel fine with the FBI Load, but I tend to handroll my own versions of that.

In my LCP, I found that S&B 92-gr FMJ gave the same velocity as Double Tap 95-grain ball (though it was not quite as accurate from my gun), and I felt fine carrying either of them (at about 985 fps). Presently I'm carrying the psychotically fast (just shy of 1100 fps from my gun) Buffalo Bore 95-gr "+P" (in quotes because no such SAAMI spec exists) ball in the gun.

I've heard from a reliable source that LAPD has authorized Hornady Critical Defense .380 as ammo for backups, but I'd note that it's not designed to meet the FBI specs and - well, I've worked on three shootings with .380 JHP that failed to adequately penetrate.

 

[Florida J Frame]

Thank you Erich. I appreciate your time.

 

[roaddog28]

When a company builds (essentially) the same product for over 100 years, they get pretty good at it.

Ditto on that. The model 10 or M&P hand ejector has proven it self for decades. Its accurate either with a 158 gr LRN or a LSWCHP 158 gr. The fixed sights are regulated to this round and the revolver seems to be very accurate with the 4 inch barrel.
I have lots of 4 inch police service revolvers. My choice is the Remington or the Buffalo Bore. I believe in penetration. Without enough penetration the attacker might still be able to kill you. Light grain high velocity ammo sometimes does to penetrate enough to do the job.
I prefer penetration or velocity anyday.
Regards,
Howard

 

[ryanjames170]

I have been looking for a plave to buy some of this stuff at for a fair price havent had much luck though,

 

[Jamie]

The wife decided today that she handles the FBI load better in rapid fire than the 135+P Gold Dot,and it doesn't spank her hand like the Gold Dot. Her choice,but the difference showed on her targets.

My wife carries the GD Short Barrel in her snubbie, my idea, the thought that it is the best for her gun. BUT, if she is faster getting the Remingtons on target, they might be a better choice. We'll have to go to the range and find out.