Finally! Resolution complete!

pigbike said:
I remember that tape. I haven't seen any in years.
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It is called skateboard tape (a millennial thing maybe?) and it can be found here: Skateboard Grip Tape | Amazon.com

And I won't likely be putting any on a gun any time soon. I would rather find a good gunsmith to checker any surfaces that are too slick to maintain a firm grip. I really hate sticky tape around my hands ;)
 
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SAFireman:
That sir, is a great looking gun! I started shooting, and loading the .41Mag. in 1964. I bought the first Mod. 57 that arrived in Columbus, Ohio, immediately started casting bullets, and reloading cartridges for it. The extremely versatile .41 Mag. has always been one of my favorite calibers. I never had the pleasure of owning a Mod. 28, let alone, a customized one such as yours. At 86, I had to give up shooting my several Mod. 57s some time ago, due to old age ailments, such as arthritis. I don't know what you are shooting in your snubby 28, but I would have to make an appointment with my orthopedic surgeon prior to a range session with it. I can't even imagine, firing a full house factory load, or one of my hot reloads, in it. Enjoy it.
Chubbo
 
Ummmmm.....a serious issue....

Well, I have been carrying this 58/7 for over a week now and decided to have a second range session. During the session, I was really unimpressed by the accuracy. Mind you, my other 58's are kin to lasers, they are great. I had written the poor groups off to aging eyes and matte grey sights. Well, it's not my eyes, and it's not the sights. I was setting the fired brass aside for reloading and noticed that it had swelled more than normal. I got out my handy dandy calipers and began measuring things. The cylinder throats were .424. Now this is an older caliper set and I am in no way a highly skilled machinist, so my measurements may be a bit off. To double check, I grabbed some loaded 44 Magnum rounds and they dropped right in! Then, just to satisfy my squirrel addled brain, I grabbed a 45 ACP and it would not drop in at all. OK - so I think that the 41 Magnum that I bought is actually a 44 Magnum :eek:

I will be emailing the seller to see what can be done. As cool of a snubby as it may be, I bid on, and bought a 41 Magnum.

Has this happened to anyone else here? The seller claims to be a fully staffed and qualified gunsmith, so they should have known right?
 
DANG!!!! Worst of luck. I would sure think that a quality gun shop would have noticed it. However, if they are busy and a lot in my area are, I can certainly see where it would have slipped past. The telling tale as to their qualification is how they handle the situation.
Best of luck to you. Certainly feel for you after all the elation you showed in previous posts. Huge let down
 
Bad luck, but I doubt you'll have much trouble selling it here after you range test it with .44 ammo.
 
If your a big 41 mag fan I understand your pain. But, if I pick up a gun marked as a model 58 I would assume it was a 41 mag. You yourself took it to the range and fired some 41 mags through it when you first got it and still didn't realize something was up until the 2nd trip.
So, I can understand how the gun shop goofed up assuming it was a 41 mag. Like stated I am sure if its a 44 mag and you don't want to keep it you can easily turn it over. Fixed sight 44 mags are pretty hard to find.

But, I do agree that if you wish to get your money back and negate the deal, you should be with in your right to do so. As much as I understand how it happened, they advertised it as a 41 and thats what you wanted. The shop shouldn't have any problems selling it as a 44 in any case. As much as some guys like 41 mags there are far more 44 fans.
 
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Chukar60 said:
DANG!!!! Worst of luck. I would sure think that a quality gun shop would have noticed it. However, if they are busy and a lot in my area are, I can certainly see where it would have slipped past. The telling tale as to their qualification is how they handle the situation.
Best of luck to you. Certainly feel for you after all the elation you showed in previous posts. Huge let down
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Yeah, the search begins anew....I am pretty bummed. I was really enjoying this one.

dr. mordo said:
Bad luck, but I doubt you'll have much trouble selling it here after you range test it with .44 ammo.
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I only have about 12 rounds of 44 Mag laying around, and those are Black Talons that a buddy gave me years ago (back when I didn't even own any 44's, special or Mag)

steelslaver said:
If your aa big 411 mag fan I understand your pain. But, if I pick up a gun marked as a model 58 I would assume it was a 41 mag. You yourself took it to the range and fired some 41 mags through it when you first got it and still didn't realize something was up until the 2nd trip.
So, I can understand how the gun shop goofed up assuming it was a 41 mag. Like stated I am sure if its a 44 mag and you don't want to keep it you can easily turn it over. Fixed sight 44 mags are pretty hard to find.
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Yup, sometimes I am a slow learner. The rounds were not swimming in the chambers like I thought that they would in a 44. I actually had to go drag out my 44 Mag Mountain gun to see if they looked the same in it (they do). I have years of shooting under the belt and did not catch it on the first go, fortunately, there were no problems.

I am on the fence about keeping it. I really had my heart set on a 41 Mag and finding this was actually was a 44 left me lost and somewhat upset. I own several pre-war 44 specials (and they are really neat guns) and two modern 44 Mags (that I hardly ever shoot or carry). I had a fleeting though about tracking down a 41 Mag cylinder and then having the barrel re-lined, but that seems excessive for what I want.

My dad was first in line if I decided to sell as he is big into Jovino's and Behlert's snubby conversions (I may have enabled him a bit in those regards). I am sure that there are several 44 Mag devotees that would jump on the chance for one like this.

I have about 50 or so re-loaded 44 specials in the range box. They are 240gr LSWC with a healthy dose of sr4756 under them. Maybe I can break away from watching baby James long enough to test them out. Who knows? maybe I will fall in love all over again with the 44 ;)

Thanks for all of the kind and supportive words guys. I'll make it through this, but I will still be a 41 Mag hound :D
 
Try a 250g SWC over 6.5g W231/HP38 in a Spl case, or 7g in a 44 mag case.

Sweet shooting, hard hitting, accurate.

Might be the load makes you keep it. :)
 
Before firing it again slug the barrel.

I had a 45acp built on a Model 57-0 frame,Model of 1955 barrel cut to 3 1/2"and way oversized reamed cylinder large C/B gap and badly headspaced.

Inside were more surprises.

A real frankenstein it was and it shot terribly
 
Years ago, when I first started my store, I wanted an inexpensive 12 ga. pump shot gun to keep on the premises. I really didn't care what brand it was - Winchester, Stevens or Sears - as long as it worked and was cheap. I bought one from a pawnshop that said "12 ga." on the tag and brought it back to the shop. As I was taking the tag off and looking at it, I realized it said "16 ga." on the barrel. Oops.

Hey, it happens. Took it back and traded it in on an old 12 ga. I know that's not something you can do easily when looking for a .41 snubbie. Keep looking - I'm confident it'll work out. Best wishes.

BTW, have you (or anyone else) heard that Charter Arms is coming out with a .41 Mag snubbie? CA had it at a gun symposium that Jeff at GunBlast was covering. Haven't seen it anywhere else, though.
 
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I went back to your 08/10/2017 post with the picture of the revolver with Pachmayr's. I also have several I have removed from revolvers,I just don't like them but as the revolver is pictured I must admit I kind of like the Pachmayer look on your revolver.
 
jhde69 said:
I went back to your 08/10/2017 post with the picture of the revolver with Pachmayr's. I also have several I have removed from revolvers,I just don't like them but as the revolver is pictured I must admit I kind of like the Pachmayer look on your revolver.
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They actually looked decent on that gun, in that configuration. They felt great when shooting as well. They did not mesh with pocket carry at all, they were to bulky and sticky. The Eagle Secret Service stocks are a compromise. They won't be any fun at a range session with magnum loads, but they do carry well.

The one thing that the Pachmayers do is extend the distance from my palm to the face of the trigger, and that makes it work better for my somewhat big hands.
 
.41 or .44 I think it's a great looking piece, I certainly wouldn't kick it out of the safe. Looking forward to your next range report.
 
Sorry to hear about your 41 let down, but that does make a cool 44. I would keep it.

I know a guy who had identical model 57 and 29's, took both to the range and fired 6 41 mags in his model 29. Didn't know it until he tried to dump the empties. had to beat them out one at a time. Accuracy was so so.

Charlie
 
crsides said:
Sorry to hear about your 41 let down, but that does make a cool 44. I would keep it.

I know a guy who had identical model 57 and 29's, took both to the range and fired 6 41 mags in his model 29. Didn't know it until he tried to dump the empties. had to beat them out one at a time. Accuracy was so so.

Charlie
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Charlie,

The empties came right out, no problems. They were my handloads, so right at 12.5gr sr4756 and a 210gr LSWC IIRC. If they were loaded a bit hotter, then they might have stuck. The accuracy wasn't terrible, 95% struck a 14" square steel plate at 25 yards (standing, two hands).

I don't know about carrying 44 Mag loads yet, I will look into that to see if I can find a load that I like. Currently, it has Black Talons loaded, but I don't have but 12 that a buddy gave me a few years ago. I do have a stash of 44 Specials 240gr LSWC and LSWCHP loaded up, but they may be a bit anemic for SD/HD use. I'll check that load this weekend to see what it does in this gun. I imagine that it is soft shooting and pleasant, but still in the over 1000fps range.
 
Just coming back after you discovery of caliber mixup. What are the barrel markings? If that revolver was mis-assembled with a 41 Mag barrel and a 44 Mag cylinder, you have a definite problem. If it’s just a mismarked 44 Mag, that’s another story entirely. If it were me, I would carefully slug the barrel and all 6 chambers then proceed based on a full set of info. If it’s a mismatch and the seller won’t stand behind it, you’ll face a fairly extensive and expensive project to make it right. Good luck!

Froggie
 
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