Hand cuffs

[armadillo]

When I retired 20 years ago, I had 3 sets of Peerless cuffs - one set I had for 33 years without losing them. I tried to turn them in to the property officer but they wouldn't take them. Over the years, I have got 3 more at guns shows or from other retirees just because I didn't want to see an untrained person to get them.

I never carry cuffs, but I still have a handcuff key on my keyring.

 

[Rustyt1953]

 

[SnidelyWhiplash]

Duty to care for medical professionals is 180 degrees from duty to the citizenry for LEO’s. I’m sure you knew as a federal LEO that you were not governed by any state statutes. Or maybe you didn’t know. Your anticipated response is duly noted . . .

I can only tell you what I and fellow recruits were told by a Deputy US Marshal. That’s what we operated on. If that information was incorrect then mea culpa…mea culpa. It wouldn’t be the first time incorrect information has been disseminated.

If you or anyone else wants to carry cuffs or not…feel free. We all do what we think is best.

 

[gym cat]

cracker 57------- I agree with you!!!

 

[The Big D]

Usually carried handcuffs…

…when off duty in my crime fighting days and used them on multiple occasions.

Cannot foresee an occasion in which I would use them now that I am merely an armed citizen.

Be safe.

 

[Smoke]

Better tell that to the People's Republic of Marylandstan. We were specifically informed of that.

If somebody regardless of who "informs" me of that I would ask for a cite and look it up myself.

Whether that has changed due to court decisions I cannot say

It seems to me that would be some pretty important information to keep track of.

but we were informed that was the case.

See my first paragraph

 

[Doug M.]

As a rule, matters of law should only be instructed by an attorney who actually works in that area of the law. I have seen some horrible advice given in good faith. Rant off.

It is entirely possible that Maryland as a matter of state law has imposed a different standard for a duty to act than is true under Federal law, which a state can do. Not my problem.

Handcuffs as a private citizen? Not in a billion years. Not only do you have no duty to intervene, but overcoming the resistant is not a single person task. A person who is "drunk, drugged, or deranged" can easily take 3-4 officers to overcome, and the risk of said offender being hurt is not trivial (and I sure as the devil don't care, no matter what the snowflakes say). The worst struggles I have been in involved smallish women and juveniles, and took several of us to overcome.

 

[djohns6]

My understanding is that the original question was about civilians carrying cuffs . We have drifted ...

 

[Rustyt1953]

The bulk of the comments here are responses to the notion of civilians (which former LEOs are) carrying handcuffs for restraining people.

Maybe I missed something.

 

[Muss Muggins]

After studying this a while, I got $10 and a cold beer says Snidely was a blue coat contract security officer for a United States Courthouse. That’s why he went to FLETC and was instructed by a DUSM. Their LEO status was very narrowly defined, but they had significant authority on the property . . .

 

[LVSteve]

If the perp has attacked you and you defended yourself with your CCW, then if you have shot them properly there is no need for cuffs.

 

[Rustyt1953]

After studying this a while, I got $10 and a cold beer says Snidely was a blue coat contract security officer for a United States Courthouse. That’s why he went to FLETC and was instructed by a DUSM. Their LEO status was very narrowly defined, but they had significant authority on the property . . .

This is why you don't bet against folks from flyover country.

 

[SnidelyWhiplash]

Nope…not a security officer…not contract…sworn federal law enforcement.

 

[elkhunter77]

In some states, like Florida, it is against the law for a civilian to carry a cuff key. Cuffs are necessary if you are a carrier of Narcan, as most come back combative, so certain security duties require it. Off duty LEO, I never carry cuffs.

 

[RMFnLA]

Carrying cuffs sounds like a good way to be accused of impersonating a police officer.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

Took early retirement in 1995. About 2016 a member of my club (active cop) noticed the old Safariland handcuff key on my keyring, told me it was a collectible. I gave it to him.

Still have the old P38 can opener from Vietnam on my keyring. Hoping I never need to use it again.

Threw away my old Army dog tags. Nearly 5 years active duty and two combat tours in Vietnam, turned out they had my blood type wrong, which I learned only years later as a volunteer blood donor.

No more handcuffs. No more keys. No more dog tags. If I must shoot someone maybe I'll hang around until authorities arrive, maybe not.

 

[Mercury]

In some states, like Florida, it is against the law for a civilian to carry a cuff key.

IIRC, it's a felony only if it's concealed and you don't immediately inform the officer. If it's on a key ring, it's not a felony.

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[oink]

I have 4 sets of handcuffs, that I know of. They've been decorating my mantle for over a decade. I don't know where any keys are. Maybe in the sock drawer?

 

[Smoke]

Threw away my old Army dog tags. Nearly 5 years active duty and two combat tours in Vietnam, turned out they had my blood type wrong, which I learned only years later as a volunteer blood donor.

I have found a half a dozen different pairs of my dog tags around the house over the years. My wife still has my last pair.

I used to keep one on my key ring until I realized the information on my dog tags was all somebody needed to steal my identity. But I didn't throw them away from the same reason

 

[Muss Muggins]

Then my second guess is VA or something similar, given that you only had to act as an LEO one time. Do you now get to carry under LEOSA?

Nope…not a security officer…not contract…sworn federal law enforcement.