hkcavalier
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I have a G26 and a Shield (wife's CCW). 365 is nice, but late to the game for us. I enjoy shooting a wide variety of firearms but shy away from a lot of different CCWs.
How long until S&W has an answer to the Sig P365?
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Just the opposite for us... The Shield is my EDC and a G26 is my Wife's EDC.
Basically, my Wife shoots her G26 better and I shoot the Shield better than the G26 (or my G19) and we feel carrying what you shoot best is the Key, rather than what Might conceal easier.
Until they get all the bugs worked out, the thought of the 365 being a 'game changer' is pretty much a moot point.
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Still not a big deal.....If you need that many rounds........Use a shotgun.
00 buck
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Small is great ...but...a old J frame grip is to small for me
Too small...you can get too small.
The 2.0 in 3.6” 9c with 15+1 is for me a perfect blend of small grip.. capacity..barrel length.
Sure one could get smaller but like cell phones the race to get smaller can get foolish to the point of absurd .
Triggernosis
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That's what happens when a company switches from German manufacturing to U.S. manufacturing, I guess.
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I hope S&W does come out with something similar. Who wouldn't want a Shield with higher capacity?
I've owned several Sigs, mine have run great, I think they can resolve the initial issues with the 365.
I've owned several Sigs, mine have run great, I think they can resolve the initial issues with the 365.
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It’s a huge deal for round count. And try can conceal carrying a shotgun [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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You don't think you could concealed carry this shotgun?
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You don't think you could concealed carry this shotgun?
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There are aftermarket vendors (magguts) that can add two rounds making the shield an 9+1 and 10+1.
Sure it is not P365 capacity. But it is a small investment and added capacity to a known reliable shield. All reports are great for the reliability of the magguts mags.
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I've been a Smith and Wesson owner since the late 70's. But when a better mouse trap (Sig P365) comes along I try it. And the 365 is that. I've traded off my Shields. First I had the regular 9mm and the .45 then moved up to the Ported models of both. There gone also. The 365 is that nice, small package, very controllable to shoot which is surprising. Whats not to like about 10 or 12 rounds of 9mm. And I can shoot Fed Aluminum cased 9mm. I also own a Rohrbaugh 9mm. Its even smaller than the P365 but its quite a handful to shoot. And at $550 its not 2 times the price of a Shield.
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NCW Ray
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P365 capacity is nice....but imho the Shield is still way ahead since they offer it in 9mm/40/45. Until Sig offers the P365 in all of those calibers, I have no interest in it at all.
martybee
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Too many documented problems with the P365! I'll stay with my tried and true Shield 9mm. I have put over 3,200 rds through mine without an issue!
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Better for who? I don't know how we could consider it as "better," the 365 has a very small track record, it's been plagued with problems from the start, (they had to stop production) and this review of the newly "updgraded" model shows issues with primer swipe:
Gun Review Follow-Up: Another Look at the SIG P365 - The Truth About Guns
Actually, after rebate many of us got our Shields for around $250, so if you paid $550 the Sig would be MORE than 2 times the price. If it works for you, great, but this is not what I consider as "better."
cowboy4evr
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I watched the "Military Arms Channel " review of the Sig P365 . He had primer swipe on all rounds fired . At 900 rounds , the trigger spring broke . Not something that would inspire confidence to buy and trust . I'm a revolver guy " through and through " but I do have 3 sigs and all have been very trouble free . If I was going to buy a small 9mm , it probably would be the HK VP 9 SK .
I gave my son an HK VP 9 SK for his birthday (It's what he had wanted for some time ) . I watched him shoot 700 rounds in 3.5 days and never a glitch or hiccup and the accuracy was superb . That was with factory loads and my hand loads . That is a real quality piece , worth the price . It hold 10 rounds , Regards, Paul
I gave my son an HK VP 9 SK for his birthday (It's what he had wanted for some time ) . I watched him shoot 700 rounds in 3.5 days and never a glitch or hiccup and the accuracy was superb . That was with factory loads and my hand loads . That is a real quality piece , worth the price . It hold 10 rounds , Regards, Paul
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Even the second gen Sig 365 is having issues. One is the frame is to small and people are pushing up on the slide lock with a normal combat grip. NOT something you want to happen in a stressful situation!
The S&W Shield has better ergonomics, better looks, and from what I have seen shoots tighter groups.
You can get 10 round mags for the Shield but 8 plus one is good enough for me with a 8 round backup. You should ALWAYS carry a extra mag!!
That gives you 17 rounds without larger mags.
The above post give ample examples of other problems.
Be SAFE and shoot often!
The S&W Shield has better ergonomics, better looks, and from what I have seen shoots tighter groups.
You can get 10 round mags for the Shield but 8 plus one is good enough for me with a 8 round backup. You should ALWAYS carry a extra mag!!
That gives you 17 rounds without larger mags.
The above post give ample examples of other problems.
Be SAFE and shoot often!
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I will not carry a Sig 365 with the issues they're having now, which is a shame because the size of the gun to capacity is fantastic. I briefly owned a shield and sold it as the Glock 43 is better in just about every way except for the price (though thankfully it's coming down now).
The difference between the shield and the 365 (leaving aside reliability) is as night and day as would be the difference between your shield and a Glock 17. It's a seriously impressive achievement if Sig can get it to work.
The difference between the shield and the 365 (leaving aside reliability) is as night and day as would be the difference between your shield and a Glock 17. It's a seriously impressive achievement if Sig can get it to work.
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How about 9c? 12rd mags.
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