I have a suggestion to fight profiteers!

Boys, this issue is starting to remind me of the old TV program from the 1950's. It was called Queen for a day. These women would get up and tell a sad tale and the Applause a meter would decide who got the new washing machine. Supply vs. Demand has ALWAYS been the determining factor called cost. Gold, guns, ammo, etc. has been discussed here. I am in good shape in most of those areas. I load/give factory ammo to my children if they need it. I do not feel badly about those that choose to buy something else if they choose. Profit has always been the driving factor of commerce. I don't care what the commodity is.

I bought a Sig M4 (or some such right before Christmas at Academy) because they had one for sale. I paid $1000.00 for it, roughly. I sold it on January 8 at the LGS for $2500. Never took it out of the box. It lasted less than one hour. I paid the owner $250 for selling it for me. I don't know the gent that bought it. I have no idea how long he has been a shooter or hasn't been a shooter? I don't know if he has any ammo to shoot in it? It is none of my business. I had something, someone else wanted it very badly, he was happy, I made /$1250 on a $1000 investment and turned it into a Colt Shooting Master I (yes me) wanted. If I did something wrong in your eyes I suggest you look at it from a different angle. I have no idea what you think a Colt Shooting Master is worth, nor do I care.

Even a squirrel puts away for the lean times. I would like to see the retirement portfolio of some of these folks crying foul. Believe me, there ain't gonna be no one around to help ya outta that mess either. Glad I didn't wait till I was 60 to start planning for that deal.

Just an old mans 3 cents worth (factored for inflation)
 
My buddy has 60,000 rounds of 22lr he has been accumulating for years. No joke. He gives me 1000-2000 rounds every once in awhile in exchange for 100 rounds of my 45 ACP. Since I have over 2,000 rounds of 45 ACP I figure I wont be running out of either ammo anytime soon.
 
No offense, but when I hear certain terms, it reminds me of certain government types who want to control everything. Profiteer is one such, as is the oft-repeated phrase "reasonable regulation" for gun control. How much profit is ok and how to control it is all in the opinion of each individual. That is like "reasonable regulation."

In my mind, reasonable CCW seems more like Vermont, where anyone who is not disqualified from gun ownership can carry concealed anywhere without asking permission from some government bureaucrat or anti-gun police chief. If you get stopped by the police, the officer runs you like he would anyway on a traffic stop. If you do not have a felony or are otherwise on a disqualified list, then you are released, no questions asked.

Others think law abiding citizens ought to have to jump through hoops to carry concealed. Others think that the use of guns for defense is wrong. Others think that use of guns for any purpose is wrong.

Same thing with profit. Some think free market should control, some think you are immoral if you make profit, some think we should just be handed anything we want or need. I say if you think the market situation is out of control, then don't feed it by buying at these insane prices. If everyone stopped buying for just 30 days - everyone - supply would increase, and prices would come down.
 
shawn mccarver said:
I say if you think the market situation is out of control, then don't feed it by buying at these insane prices. If everyone stopped buying for just 30 days - everyone - supply would increase, and prices would come down.
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+1

As far as active participation in the shooting sports being synonymous with ammo philanthropy, I'm not buying it. No more than I should feel obligated to arm those who can't find the guns of their choice based on current supply problems.
 
C17 said:
My buddy has 60,000 rounds of 22lr he has been accumulating for years. No joke. He gives me 1000-2000 rounds every once in awhile in exchange for 100 rounds of my 45 ACP. Since I have over 2,000 rounds of 45 ACP I figure I wont be running out of either ammo anytime soon.
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I Love to barter & trade.
 
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"It is best to prepare for the days of necessity".

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares shall plow for those who did not".
 
I have to agree that CTD is a weird site. They have great prices and then, all of a sudden, outrageous prices even though their cost per box should stay the same from the manufacturer. Are they being gouged and then passing the gouging on to us???
 
arjay said:
I keep my son and sister in ammo and I suspect a lot of us with a little put away are doing the same.
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A while back I scored 2 bulk boxes of 22LR. One for me and one for my son-in-law. He needs to be at work, I have the time to cruise the stores.
 
cowgrl57 said:
I am a brand new gun owner, 38 special model 64and a savage rifle - when I purchased both guns I was only able to secure a box of ammo for my 38. We have three gun stores and two sporting goods stores in town besides two wal marts. At each one I was told the only way I could purchase ammo that was not outrageous was to stand in line. I did it once - as I watched the first guy and his wife in line (I was 7) buy all the popular ammo bragging that they were going to sell it for twice what they paid for it. They brag that they go to each store in town and do the same thing. Others in line, including a shooting range employee expressed that this was part of the problem of no ammo available in town. The couple laughed and said they charge 2-3 times what they pay for each box. There was nothing left to purchase by the time I got to purchase my ammo. Wal mart is now diligently enforcing the three box rule which is helpful, but in our town 22lr is almost impossible to find, and Walmart rarely has it either. While I understand supply and demand and pricing, to knowingly week after week flaunt how you are going to make everyone pay is not right. I guess it takes all kinds and it is not my intent to whine, just voicing the frustrated opinion of a new gun owner. The good news is I have found a few boxes of 38 special, a little pricey, but I am going to practice with my new gun and keep at least 20 rounds for self defense. My savage rifle will have to wait for practice ammo, not paying ridiculous prices, if I have to use it as a bat instead of a rifle, that will work too...lol
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Sounds like a pair I know, only these two would take said ammo and resell it at their shop!

As for me, I'm more than willing to part with a box of ammo or a mag or two if somebody asks.
As for the great panic, seen them both, and bought my stuff prior to them. I still buy a box or two of ammo or a mag if its priced right! But I refuse to pay panic prices or patronize a shop that sells on GB!

As for making a profit, if I can stick it to the dealer you bet I will, to another joe or jane, I give you a deal that will have you grinning!
Dale
 
The ammo pipeline is starting to return to some semblance of normality and someone felt the need to resurrect this thread? :rolleyes:
 
CoMF said:
The ammo pipeline is starting to return to some semblance of normality and someone felt the need to resurrect this thread? :rolleyes:
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Nothing wrong with that, some like to keep informed and see things from beginning to end. Its called: Being part of the learning process!
 
the ringo kid said:
Nothing wrong with that, some like to keep informed and see things from beginning to end. Its called: Being part of the learning process!
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Would you say the post that re-started this thread was "informative"? ;) From what I gathered, it prompted a comment (not by you, of course) about the shortage of Kleenex and a lot of "teaching" that had nothing to do with the current ammo supply situation.

The lone exception reiterated what most of us already knew: Bulk .22 is out there if you're willing to look for it.

As for other calibers, I've seen 9mm, .40 and even .45 and some 5.56 sitting on the shelves again at slightly higher than pre-panic prices but nowhere near what some would decry as "gouging." The only calibers I'm aware of that seem to remain elusive at the brick and mortars are .22 and .380 Auto. There also seems to be a recent dearth of .38/.357 defensive loadings but fairly good stocks of plinking fodder. Again, it's out there if you call around and are willing to look for it.

I trust that you've found this post sufficiently "informative" and "educational" for the benefit of others. :D

All the best to you and yours, CoMF.
 
CoMF said:
Would you say the post that re-started this thread was "informative"? ;) From what I gathered, it prompted a comment (not by you, of course) about the shortage of Kleenex and a lot of "teaching" that had nothing to do with the current ammo supply situation.

The lone exception reiterated what most of us already knew: Bulk .22 is out there if you're willing to look for it.

As for other calibers, I've seen 9mm, .40 and even .45 and some 5.56 sitting on the shelves again at slightly higher than pre-panic prices but nowhere near what some would decry as "gouging." The only calibers I'm aware of that seem to remain elusive at the brick and mortars are .22 and .380 Auto. There also seems to be a recent dearth of .38/.357 defensive loadings but fairly good stocks of plinking fodder. Again, it's out there if you call around and are willing to look for it.

I trust that you've found this post sufficiently "informative" and "educational" for the benefit of others. :D

All the best to you and yours, CoMF.
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You haven't seen the line of those who showed up to WalMart late lined up in the Kleenex aisle waiting for it to be stocked. Lots of crying means lots of Kleenex is needed.


Now to business.

I've noticed fewer options being offered on gunbot. HAs anyone noticed the same thing. Its looking like 22 is drying up again. My local Academy has not seen any in the last 2 weeks and they have been quite dependable with at least some showing up in each delivery. Granted it wasn't much but at least some was available. I've noticed 9mm also starting to be in shorter supply than it was a few months ago.
 
stmry said:
If you don't get your timing correct, you may end up flat broke and a fool:)
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Like my buddy says: "My goal is to die debt-free but hope to make sure the check to the undertaker bounces!":p
 
CoMF said:
Would you say the post that re-started this thread was "informative"? ;) From what I gathered, it prompted a comment (not by you, of course) about the shortage of Kleenex and a lot of "teaching" that had nothing to do with the current ammo supply situation.

The lone exception reiterated what most of us already knew: Bulk .22 is out there if you're willing to look for it.

As for other calibers, I've seen 9mm, .40 and even .45 and some 5.56 sitting on the shelves again at slightly higher than pre-panic prices but nowhere near what some would decry as "gouging." The only calibers I'm aware of that seem to remain elusive at the brick and mortars are .22 and .380 Auto. There also seems to be a recent dearth of .38/.357 defensive loadings but fairly good stocks of plinking fodder. Again, it's out there if you call around and are willing to look for it.

I trust that you've found this post sufficiently "informative" and "educational" for the benefit of others. :D

All the best to you and yours, CoMF.
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Reply for the first part of this post: "Im too tired to properly reply."

Reply for the second part of this post: "Refer to first reply." ;-))
 
CoMF said:
No worries, hoss. It'll still be there after you've rested up. ;)
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Im old and I never get the rest I need. :D Truthfully (now that its a different day) I really dont know how to reply because I do agree with some of it.
 
The price of tequila has gotten really high lately. Could some of you guys do the honorable thing and send me a few litres?


OK, I just noticed this pic of our hero Deputy Fife. Note that he's CORRECTLY loading with his RIGHT hand while seemingly holding his revolver, also correctly, in his LEFT hand, left fingers through the cylinder opening etc. The way they teach us in cop school.

Was Mr Knotts a real live pistolero in real life, does anyone know? Or did some consultant show him how to do that?

358156hp said:
I'm all in favor of bud nippin'
BarneyFife.jpg
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Sgt Lumpy
 
#1 way to combat price gouging ammo hawks... don't buy from them.

When I have free time I stalk them near the gun counter at the local walmart and photograph them in the act so others know who they're dealing with.
 
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