I need your help review S & W PPK pistol, by purchase

[PERA]

Dear Sirs, I have a question that I hope will help me to clear that I'm in another country, Uruguay, prices here are worth double that in the US.
For concealed carry, choose from Walther PPK, manufactured by S & W, worked with NIB machine -----> U $ S 1800.
this price is much money in my country, so very important your answer.
It is very beautiful, is blackened, machine engraved, and its grip is integral, engraved wood, very cute butt.
I have no idea if they break or are very good. As I read that sometimes there Manua insurance decoker breaks? I say it's a limited edition.
This limited version is considered fine you fake? This gun is really master piece, with very good quality?
Do you think opsión between 1 and 2, which would you recommend and why?
of the three weapons recommend me for concealed carry and why?
Try to register for the forum Walther, intending to ask this question, but I have not been able to do despite my attempts. That is why it is so important to me your opinion.

Thank you very much for your help, your opinion is very important to me.
Thank yo

 

[PERA]

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[Ed Fowler]

I carry a PPKs made by Walther in 22 rimfire. I have fired thousands of round through it and no failures. I like it a lot.
I have shot a 380 made by S&W like the one you showed, it shot very well, I only got to shoot 50 rounds.

I don't know what other guns you are asking about.

Good Luck!

 

[sheepdawg]

I have shot a 308 made by S&W like the one you showed,

Wow I bet that little sucker kicks hard.

 

[kilo charlie]

I have a PPK by Smith & Wesson. It is a wonderful pistol. It is one of the guns I carry on a regular basis. It has been 100% reliable with all kinds of ammunition, and it is very easy to shoot accurately.

 

[Arik]

Beautiful gun but I would not carry that. Beauty will have no effect on self defense or function. I find odd to pay that much money for something based on looks when it's going to be a tool and hidden under a shirt or something. When instead I can use that money for ammo and mags and maybe a night out

I don't know what you have access to as far as gun but o would look for something else. Walther PP was the pinnacle of concealment and reliability 60 years ago. There are better guns today.

 

[TTSH]

Do you think option between 1 and 2, which would you recommend and why? of the three weapons recommend me for concealed carry and why?

I'm not understanding what your other options are. I'm only seeing that nicely engraved Walther PPK .380.

 

[PERA]

First of all, thank you very much for your help, your opinions are very valuable to me.
I'll see if I can improve the supply, it is a lot of money in my country, for a 380 ACP, however, is a beauty, and very well done, and that's important to me, like some of you, according to your opinions.
The other two options, for that price, it's a Glock 26, or S & W 642 and U $ S 2,200, 686 7 Rounds, spout 3 ".
But I already have: CZ Shadow P01 (excellent on precision and firepower, all steel)
Police Positive Special Colt's 38 Spl (manufactured 1958 NIB, I tune and fit. 1.5 lbs single action and double action 5 lbs)
Colt's Cobra, 32 s & w long. (Manufactured 1960 ecepcionalmente precise and refined only weighs 15 ounces) .The idea is to complement what already I have, I had Glock 42 new, did not mind, it was not very accurate and unsafe to get loose in the pants pocket, not me He was backed by 380 ACP.
PPK, while it is 380 ACP, if it is very accurate and reliable, all steel and beautiful, well machined, has spirit!,
What do you think??
thank you very much, any opinion on the matter will be much appreciated.
Fraternal greetings.

 

[TTSH]

The other two options, for that price, it's a Glock 26, or S&W 642 and US$ 2,200, 686 7-Rounds, spout 3".

But I already have: CZ Shadow P01 (excellent on precision and firepower, all steel) Police Positive Special Colt's 38 Spl (manufactured 1958 NIB, I tune and fit, 1.5 lbs single action and double action 5 lbs) Colt's Cobra, 32 S&W long. (Manufactured 1960 exceptionally precise and refined only weighs 15 ounces). The idea is to complement what I already have.

Well, I'd say that for effective concealed carry, the 3" S&W Model 686 (7-rounds) is probably out... although it is a very nice and powerful revolver. I'm sure you'd be proud to own it.

Between the Glock 26 and the S&W Model 642, I'd take the Glock 26 for certain... although, again, the Model 642 is very nice (and very small & lightweight) for concealed carry.

But it still sounds like you would really prefer to own that fancy engraved Walther PPK. Can't blame you for that. Not sure if it is the "ideal" concealed carry gun but it sure is pretty!

 

[lrrifleman]

@ PERA,

As I read your post, you already possess a CZ and 2 vintage Colts ... only because of value, I would never consider carrying those Colts!

As I understand your purchasing options, for an $1800US investment, you can get this PPK, a Glock, or a S&W 642. For a $2200US investment, you can get a S&W Model 686 Plus ... am I correct?

If I understand the above correctly, I would advise that you might want to adjust your thinking. I don't know how your law enforcement works down in Uruguay, but if it is anything like in the US, I would anticipate that I would (hopefully, temporarily) lose possession of my firearm during an investigation if I had to use my sidearm for self defense. I am frugal, I don't have money to throw away.

With the above in mind, I would make my purchase in the following priority order:
1. S&W model 642 - 5 shots of 38/357 should be adequate medicine to end an armed confrontation.
2. Glock - as much as I dislike the Glock, it is a utilitarian handgun that I would not lose sleep over, if it weren't returned.
3. S&W model 686 Plus - 7 rounds of 38/357 will stop an attack, of up to 2-3 assailants, any more, and you have yet to make an appropriate selection. I place this Smith third to the Glock, only because I am cheap and would rather lose $1800US rather than $2200US!
4. PPK - I feel that an engraved gun is too flashy, and if someone sees it accidentally, they may want it more than you, and that could provoke a confrontation. Also, if it is a heel magazine release pistol, you may not have a fast reload.

I hope that this may help.

 

[KSDeputy]

I am a Walther collector. The engraved pistol you show should be in a safe somewhere. It is way too beautiful to be carried. Can you buy a plain PPK or PPK/S to carry? I carry a .45 when I leave my farm, but I carry a .380 around here. I have a BERSA satin nickel .380 that shoots great and is much less expensive than my Walthers. That, or any of the .380 pocket pistols such as the Ruger LCP, or the S&W Bodyguard .380 would be much less money than the Walthers, as well.

 

[PERA]

Forum Dear friends, I am very grateful for all your valuable opinions.
They have helped me a lot, I had fallen in love with this beautiful PPK, as a man falls in love with a beautiful woman and fails to realize that this woman is not the best for you.
Thank you, I managed to leave the enchantment.
Now, I will continue my search for a new love.
Thank you all for your good advice, which as you can see I capitalized.
In fact, I always knew, only that he was drunk with love for the PPK, and could not think intelligence, but with the heart. Of course, we must recognize that this beautiful little gun, she achieves that others do not.
They do not believe?

 

[PERA]

I always knew that defense, caliber 380, does not have enough power to stop, that is no good.
Perhaps in USA, have access to improved + p and HP, SFMJ as Sable ORO, I think ammo, but Uruguay, there is only common FMJ
This places as gauges, effective defense enough stopping power :.
Okay pistol caliber 9mm Parabellum.
For revolver snuby, okay calibers: 38 S & W Special + p and + p + and 357 Mag.
You know if l S & W; 642, and 637, are accurate to 25 yards ,?
I ask because my Colt's Cobra, Snuby caliber 32 S & W long, is very accurate, as 10 and a 9 on the Diana, single action 25 yards! It's true !, but the caliber does not have enough power to stop although I have improved somewhat with reloaded ammunition.
What you think?
I already had a Colt's Detective Special 38, the latest generation can not bear loads + p, besides being very heavy on the wallet, however my Colt's Police Positive Special 38, which is equal to Detective, except that it has 4-inch pipe, was manufactured in 1958 and supports + p charges, without resent anything besides your machining and finish is much higher Detective next generation, so I sold it.
The Glock is not secure loose without holster inside a pocket, for me or maybe I'm exaggerating and I'm wrong. I had a Glock 42 and sold it for that.
Do you advise me, you think, then?

 

[Double-O-Dave]

Hi Pera:

I'm sorry, but I cannot determine what purpose you intend to use the handgun for. Once you provide the role intended for the handgun, I can provide a better quality response to your question.

Regards,

Dave

 

[TTSH]

I'm sorry, but I cannot determine what purpose you intend to use the handgun for. Once you provide the role intended for the handgun, I can provide a better quality response to your question.

I think his stated purpose is clear enough. In his top post, he states that the gun will be for "concealed carry." Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on one's point of view), there seem to be other cultural factors at play here. My read is that he really wants that nicely engraved Walther PPK (I don't blame him!)... ... and other factors that we might consider more relevant to concealed carry in this country maybe aren't so relevant to him and this decision down in Uruguay.

 

[PERA]

Dear friends David and "TTSH", thank you very much for helping me. Indeed TTSH interpreted as well, my purpose David, is "concealed carry extreme", for which it is important to:
                          1) A gauge with good stopping power.

                          2) weigh no more than 15 oz.

                          3) Immediately use, simple action alone, type 1911, it is attractive but under streess, is not effective. Instead "DAO", "DA.SA" and "Fast Action, whether they are effective under stress.
                          4) I have my doubts as to the safety of an accidental shot "Fast Action" Glock would use it occasionally loose in your pocket without holster. Not if I exaggerate? what do you think?
                          5) For me it is important to be accurate, I'm very picky at this point, I assume.
                           6) This point is mentioned as well, the friend "TTSH" is cultural, I regret that I like aesthetically, it would be good if in addition to good, is cute. (Smile) I think that the gun should be an extension of our body.
Any opinion about it, will be very helpful.
It is a pleasure to communicate with you, I consider myself privileged to be able to know, thanks for being friends.
Fraternal greetings,

 

[Ed Fowler]

If you like it and want to carry it, buy all means make her yours. She is more than qualified to serve you well. If you don't buy her you will think about her for ever more. Love is like that.

 

[Double-O-Dave]

Hi Pera:

Some of your goals are in direct contradiction with the handguns you mention. I have owned and carried a Walther PPK/s in .380ACP. This handgun weighs well in excess of 15 oz. Also, the .380ACP does not lead the list of "man-stopper calibers" - that list usually contains calibers such as the .45ACP, .357 Magnum, .44 Special, .45 Colt, etc. Also, "gauge" is used for shotguns, while "caliber" is used for handguns and rifles.

You don't mention if you plan on holster carry (belt, shoulder, or ankle), or in your pocket(s). If you are going to carry the piece outside of your pocket(s), the weight limit could go higher, unless there are other factors in consideration. If weight and size are considerations, then one handgun that I think meets your criteria would be an Airweight S&W J-frame revolver. Examples can be found in .38 Special, such as the following Model 442 or 642, or 638. If you want the revolver chambered in .357 Magnum, you'll have to either select the Model 638, or go to the non-Airweight J-frames, which means more weight.

Good luck,

Dave

 

[bigggbbruce]

The newer PPK/s from S&W have the extended beaver tail. When shooting these it hits right on my thumb knuckle and just plain hurts to shoot.

I prefer the earlier Walther and Interarms marked guns.

Had good luck and accuracy from all I owned and shot.

 

[PERA]

Dear friends, thank you very much for helping me.
I will take into account our opinions are very valuable to me.
See you soon,