Is it me (probably) or are forum posters scary?

Well the OP sould be slamed for a false title. I thought this was going to be a thread about the Forum Halloween Party but it wasn't. I was looking forward to seeing some great costumes and funny shots from the party. Alad its just a you know what thread devoid of any pertinent information.

Well a belayed Happy Halloween to all.
 
This is the most informative, most polite, most useful forum I have ever found for anything, much less firearms. Want scary? It rhymes with barfcom.
 
ladyT said:
Well the OP sould be slamed for a false title.
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No, I got the reference. And it's quite timely, as I've stated before, there are drug deals made in the food court just outside the coffee bar my wife and I patronize. People don't seem to care about decorum, safety or simple manners anymore.

That attitude can bleed into how they react in business, and how they act in leisure pursuits, like this forum.

I used to peruse martial arts forums. I got tired of veiled death threats to each other amongst the members. In fact, you could be targeted simply because they found no value in the discipline you chose.

We discuss firearms here. That means defensive weapons and personal protection ammunition. I use items like that to defend my wife and those in my care. A loonie might be attracted to living out his Halo fantasies.

In other words, this forum is just the tip of the iceberg. The people who the OP mentions are among us. I'm glad he started the debate.
 
Scary Posters

Just found this thread, and find it very enjoyable. I'd share some of the stories I have over the last 50 years of shooting, however, I'm afraid some of you might block me. One right we all have, and generally exercise way too often, is the right to be wrong. Politics, religion, guns, love, you name it one of us is usually wrong. Most likely not me.(LOL) I find most of the posts in the 15-22 section are generally informative and well reasoned. Most questions are truly a quest for knowledge. I really like sharing my limited knowledge, and certainly appreciate gaining new knowledge.
As for some people not being allowed to exercise their rights for whatever reason, I would agree, the problem is, who decides?
Rights For All,
RichH
 
The Tourist said:
I used to peruse martial arts forums. I got tired of veiled death threats to each other amongst the members. In fact, you could be targeted simply because they found no value in the discipline you chose.
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Ah, something like the age old, "My master is better than your master" thing.......;)
 
As was just pointed out everybody has the right to do a great many things. I don't want to be the arbitrator of what is done or said by anyone.

My whole point of this thread was regardless of rights, people do stupid things. They should be called out when they do stupid things.

Disagreeing on politics, or whatever has a low threshold of getting someone hurt. Doing something stupid with a gun could get someone killed.

I sense a few posters on this thread are adamant about protecting their rights at all costs whether they are wrong or not. "the i have a constitutional right to be a moron" amendment.

Just drive down the street about any day of the week and you will see people doing stupid things with their cars.

And I'm sure someone will say, "what's stupid to one person is not to another person". Again an argument to be a moron.

Dave
 
Buford57 said:
Frankly, I cringe a little when someone refers to a firearm as a "weapon" and is immediately reprimanded for giving aid and comfort to the enemy by suggesting that our "sporting goods" might actually be used against another human being. Not as much as I cringe at the mall ninjas, but a cringe all the same.
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I my friend was trained to call a gun a weapon. I may in a post refer to a gun as a weapon, as a gun or even a firearm. My Pappy always referred to his shotgun as a firearm. We are all different with different views it what makes the world go around. Bad behavior is bad behavior, if you are not aware or made aware of your behavior you will not change it. I have packed up and left the range more than once because of some young guns behavior. I have called them on it also. the worst was me and a young man were at the indoor range at the gun club. I asked for a cease fire so I could check my target. he used the time to reload his pistol and lay in facing down range with the action closed. I then explained the posted range rules about handling firearms during a cease fire. He blow me off by saying it no big thing. Whether or not I made and impression I do not know. But I pick my shooting partners now and we understand range rules. These rule are for everyone every time. I have been a member here for about 7-6 months I find this forum to be helpful, informative, funny and not all that political. Last night I posted on the reloading forum about a mistake I made, I didn't do it to embarrass myself but as a reminder we need to think about what we are doing; we some times need to have a safety reminder.
 
Everyone can afford a computer nowadays.
Everyone who owns a computer is an expert.
Facts and opinions vary from forum to forum...on the same topic
There is so much misinformation on the Internet forums its scary.
Worse yet, people just assume the person posting above them is the expert...
A person must read and research and make your own opinion.
 
I believe unbridled censorship is _*scary*_!

I say and do what I want and infringe upon no ones rights.

Don't tread on me.
 
boy this is gonna get me in trouble but here goes first I agree with dave people do post scary things on here. but we all need to be mindful about exactely what this is. Forums are (or should be) places where information is sought to increase your knowledge on whatever it is your looking for. no one here is absolute authority on anything just their opinion based on experience and or training. but i also feel forums tend to take on a elite club atmosphere at times case in point my post count will forever be low simply because of how i feel a forum should be used i try to only post when i think it can really be beneficial to the poster, another forum i visit has a water cooler room you can only get in after so many posts so im not in because i dont post trivial stuff just to up my post count. that being said sometimes we forget that everybody started as a newbie at sometime and i can guarantee you everyone has done something scary with a gun at somepoint in our lives.
 
The opportunity to share information and experience with younger generations and to see your teachings come alive in others can be one of the best rewards in life. Of course it's a bit different over the Internet with those you don't know and will likely never meet, but I think most folks very much enjoy being able to pass along their knowledge to others. Doing so in a thoughtful manner absent derision it a big part of what makes this forum an enjoyable place for all to visit, IMO.

That said... it's been my observations that a lack of expert gun knowledge and decades of experience aren't the key factors in unsafe behavior. What I see more of is a combination of inattention, laziness and an attitude that some gun range rules don't apply when inconvenient and only exist for stupid people. I find this combination more among experienced shooters my age 55+ than younger folks.

I try to keep a close eye on others around guns with an even closer eye on myself, and am extra cautious of those who are convinced that everyone else is stupid.
 
I hear ya

Johngalt;sure why not? But seriously if you had asked; "I have a M&P 38 special that was my grandfather's that dates to the early 1920s. The cylinder chambers allow .357 magnums to go in. Is it safe to shoot with .357 magnums?"

I bought a model 37 no dash a couple of years ago from a guy that told me that it was a .38 special but would shoot .357's too.:eek: I didn't say anything for fear of making him feel stoopid and possibly raising the 200 dollar price. I just can't seem to get the cylinder closed with the .357's. I was hoping to use it for deer season too.:(
Peace,
gordon
 
Maybe there should be a requirement that before they can post, the newbies have to read the articles written by Skeeter Shelton on the link posted on the forum.
He sure had common sense by the truckload about firearms.
 
I am one of the newbies who probably scares you with the stupidity or simplicity of my questions. I have certainly asked a lot of them.

I am very new to shooting, and am trying to learn as much as I can as fast as I can. However, in some areas, I just don't have enough general background information for he articles I read to make sense.

So this forum as been a major asset. I read something interesting and insightful, although I often have to stop and look up what a word means.

I hope all the more experienced folks will continue to hook into the forums so us newbies can learn and become wiser. I've already learned not to talk about shooting in the general public; it just leads to more problems. So I think of the forum as my "interest group."

Oh, I'm one of those who you won't see reloading. Blowing myself up does not appeal to me at all.
 
So I read the entire darn thread. Confusing to say the least. Its upsetting to have to figure out the code the OP uses and the things he doesn't like. And then there are the other things folks here don't like or can't figure out about the thread. Oh well.

The part about scary people I can relate to, but maybe not the same ones as the OP. A while back Crowfoot and I had an exchange. It was kind of about this subject. I don't hold grudges against people I consider honest, and Crowfoot was one. My point was how scary gun shows are, and how I didn't even like the idea of them having loaded guns in the parking lot. And my views are formed by the terrible safety practices of the gun show goers. If anyone wants to see examples, take in a gun show the next time one is near. Consider for an instant if any of the jokers were allowed to brandish (a technical term) a loaded firearm. I think Crowfoot and I are still OK with each other. But we took opposite points of view.

One of the things I don't like about this forum is the tolerance for obscured references to others. What ever happened to calling a spade a spade? (so if you're mad at me, just come out with it!)

Back to Feral's story about being shot at. My guess is everyone gets shot at during the course of their lifetime, particularly hunters. My brother lives in central Wisconsin and he used to abandon his house every opening day! Bullets hitting it. From afar, but its still not comforting.

My story happened when I was about 16 and with my own new shotgun. We were hunting a family friends fields. No one other that us and the immediate neighbors were given permission. Lucky we were with the landowner that day. We were hunting a stubble field when a few hundred yards away we heard some yelling, and then some shots, peppering us. It seems some city folks came out to the country to hunt. Worse, they were mad that we were stirring up game in the direction they wanted to hunt! I guess in their world, peppering others was acceptable. We went straight toward them and the land owner gave them a blistering speech. They left. It was an early lesson that getting shot at wasn't all that much fun. Or even romantic.

Since that time I've heard the unmistakable sound of pellets hitting around me, or trees around me. Maybe I should take it more personally. Or shoot back.
 
I have a friend that I have hunted with for over 30 years. We have peppered each other with shot many times. I don't see it as a big deal.
 
I always buy my aluminum foil in the large boxes at Costco, it allows me to make several different versions of stylish headgear..........
 
If someone peppers me:

"Dey en fo a lot of trouble!" (insert Boudreaux and Thibodeaux accent here).

Is that scary enough for ya?
 
old bear said:
44special Dave, yes I've seen some kind of scary posts, but they are in the Minority here, when compared to so many other forums. I've had a series of running skirmishes with one staff moderator at another forum over his and other members habit of referring to firearms as toys and training/range time as either play time or games.

I'll venture that thousands have become first time gun owners in the last 5 or so years. As tired as I get of the same old basic questions, I have to remind myself that none of us were born knowing it all. I also assume I asked some fairly basic,(stupid) questions when I was first involved in the shooting sports.

I also believe that we, whoever we are, have a duty to help anyone who comes to us and asks for help, as long as they do so in a polite fashion.
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This ^^^
This is the best shooting/guns Forum going IMHO.
Sure there will be some new folks who don't know it
all yet. I just try to remember that i too was a (newbie)
to guns at one point. Everyone can learn something.

Chuck
 
To the newbie who asks a lot of questions; not talking about you. You want to learn.

To Rburg; I guess I was vague in my reference to people doing stupid things with guns. reason is I have seen threads deleted because posters took the direct approach and were blunt about it. As for guns shows recently in my area a dealer was showing a gun to a "customer" and the customer pointed it toward a wall and ....you guessed it.....boom! Wow!

To being peppered many times by a friend? What the hell! What if it wasn't a friend who peppered you?

Back to Dick Burg; Ok here's a straightforward one for you;

Do folks really sleep with a loaded gun under their pillow? Presumably the pillow they are laying their head on. OK.........

As to the posters who've said; hey everybody has to start somewhere and we were all newbies at some point. Not talking about folks who honestly want to learn. This is a GREAT forum for that!

Dave
 
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